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Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-hollenbeck-rfc4930bis-02

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Wed, 15 July 2009 22:12 UTC

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To: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicolas Williams [mailto:Nicolas.Williams@sun.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:08 PM
> To: Hollenbeck, Scott
> Cc: Sandy Murphy; catherine.meadows@nrl.navy.mil; 
> iesg@ietf.org; secdir@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-hollenbeck-rfc4930bis-02
> 
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 03:44:04PM -0400, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nicolas Williams [mailto:Nicolas.Williams@sun.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:35 PM
> > > To: Hollenbeck, Scott
> > > Cc: Sandy Murphy; catherine.meadows@nrl.navy.mil; iesg@ietf.org; 
> > > secdir@ietf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [secdir] Secdir review of 
> > > draft-hollenbeck-rfc4930bis-02
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 08:08:32PM -0400, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote:
> > > > Doesn't TLS provide protections for this issue?
> > > 
> > > Provided you authenticate the server, yes.
> > 
> > Good, because server authentication is a requirement specified in 
> > section 9 of 4934bis.
> 
> And provided we're talking about a two-party, client-server 
> type of application.  Specifically, that the username and 
> cleartext password are not being sent to more than one party 
> and never in cleartext.

That's exactly how it works right now.

-Scott-

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