Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-raj-dhc-tftp-addr-option-04

--On Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:18:37 PM -0700 Cullen Jennings 
<fluffy@cisco.com> wrote:

>
> I find the claim that attacks are easier to do with "VoIP Configuration
> Server Address" than the "TFTP Server Name" to be pretty dubious.

Me too.

> That said, I think this security discussion is going the wrong direction.
> What is common practice, and what I think this should suggest, is that
> DHCP can be spoofed in some cases. The correct thing to do is to secure
> the object that is retrieved via tftp.

I'm inclined to agree with this, in principle.
In practice, that requires either preconfiguration, which sort of defeats 
the point of using DHCP, or a closed system like firmware updates signed by 
a device manufacturer, where not only the network but also the user and 
DHCP server operator are untrusted.

If we're talking about an option which will only ever be used to tell 
phones where to download new firmware, then this is fine.  If we're talking 
about an option which will be used by network operators to provide 
configuration to phones (in order to avoid manual configuration), or in 
general to provide a TFTP server address for whatever is the next step in 
the boot process, then "secure the object" sounds like good advice but IMHO 
is less practical than "configure your network to prevent DHCP spoofing".

> There are ways to mitigate DHCP spoofing but
> discussion of those is outside scope of this draft.

I agree that discussion of how to mitigate DHCP spoofing is out of scope. 
However, I think recommending that operators do so is appropriate.

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