Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-isms-transport-security-model-12
"David B Harrington" <dbharrington@comcast.net> Tue, 05 May 2009 20:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-isms-transport-security-model-12
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Hi Barry, your formulation is "MUST ... use", where "use" is a deployment decision, and MUST is inappropriate for deployment advice. We currently use "SHOULD ... use", but Jeff thinks that in inappropriate as well. How about: by the RFC 3411 architecture. However, the Transport Security Model does not provide security mechanisms such as authentication and encryption itself, so operators are advised to always use this with a Transport Model that provides appropriate security, where "appropriate" for a particular deployment is an administrative decision. Which threats are addressed and how they are mitigated depends on the Transport Model. dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: barryleiba@gmail.com [mailto:barryleiba@gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Barry Leiba > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:04 PM > To: David B Harrington > Cc: secdir@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; isms@ietf.org; > isms-chairs@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Isms] [secdir] secdir review > ofdraft-ietf-isms-transport-security-model-12 > > > That is a deployment decision made by an administrator who has an > > understanding of what is appropriate to the system in question. > > > > What is the correct non-RFC2119 phrase in which to couch our > > deployment advice? > > Well, this would make me happy; would it work for you (and others)?: > > OLD: > by the RFC 3411 architecture. However, the Transport > Security Model > does not provide security mechanisms such as authentication and > encryption itself, so it SHOULD always be used with a > Transport Model > that provides appropriate security. Which threats are > addressed and > how they are mitigated depends on the Transport Model. > > NEW: > by the RFC 3411 architecture. However, the Transport > Security Model > does not provide security mechanisms such as authentication and > encryption itself, so it MUST always be used with a Transport Model > that provides appropriate security. What is "appropriate" > for a particular > deployment is an administrative decision. Which threats > are addressed > and how they are mitigated depends on the Transport Model. > > Barry >
- [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-isms-transpo… Barry Leiba
- Re: [secdir] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-isms-tran… David B Harrington
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-is… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-is… David B Harrington
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-is… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-is… David B Harrington
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-is… Barry Leiba
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdirreview ofdraft-ietf-ism… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-is… Glen Zorn
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review ofdraft-ietf-is… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review of draft-ietf-i… David B. Nelson
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review of draft-ietf-i… Sam Hartman
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir review of draft-ietf-i… Barry Leiba
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir reviewofdraft-ietf-ism… Barry Leiba
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir reviewofdraft-ietf-ism… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdirreviewofdraft-ietf-isms… David Harrington
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdirreviewofdraft-ietf-isms… David Harrington
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir reviewofdraft-ietf-ism… David Harrington
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir reviewofdraft-ietf-ism… tom.petch
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdir reviewofdraft-ietf-ism… tom.petch
- Re: [secdir] secdir reviewofdraft-ietf-isms-trans… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [secdir] secdir reviewofdraft-ietf-isms-trans… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [secdir] [Isms] secdirreviewofdraft-ietf-isms… tom.petch