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Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 12 December 2019 21:32 UTC

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Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) <pkampana@cisco.com> wrote:
    >> Sorry if I've missed it, but who do we have that is calling for a
    >> post-quantum PKI solution to be developed now, but who is not
    >> promoting one such?

    > We (Cisco) will need PQ PKI (not WebPKI) solution for image
    > signing. When talking about chips that are designed now and will live
    > in the field for decades, we would like to design today instead of wait
    > for 2030. Note we are spending (not making) money on PKI, so we are not
    > trying to corner a market.

As a variation of what EKR asked, you are asking for PQ-PKI, but your use
case is image signing.

I can see why having a set of chainable signed objects (i.e. a PKI) would
more useful than just a hash-based signature, if you can do it simply.

It seems like draft-ietf-cose-hash-sig-09 plus draft-birkholz-core-coid might
be useful here.

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