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Re: [sidr] working group adoption call for draft-kklf-sidr-route-server-rpki-light-01

Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.com> Fri, 06 May 2016 21:33 UTC

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From: Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 06 May 2016 17:33:19 -0400
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To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
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Subject: Re: [sidr] working group adoption call for draft-kklf-sidr-route-server-rpki-light-01
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On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

> ​sure, but I dont' always use the RS at the IX.​
>>
>>
> ... and you don't have to trust the RS if you do.
>
> This feel like a prefect being the enemy of the good type discussion --
>  you shouldn't use RS, and you should do your own validation. You should
> also always brush your teeth and ear yer veggies -- but, we know some
> people will not listen to / follow this advice.
> Some people do use route servers, and won't do their own validation - I'd
> rather that they have the information available to make a decision than
> not...
>
>

100% agree with Warren.

I support the adoption of the document but I suggest to add text to guide
the adopters in the multiple issues that implementing it might arise.

Regards
as

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