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Re: [sidr] working group adoption call for draft-kklf-sidr-route-server-rpki-light-01

Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Fri, 06 May 2016 02:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sidr] working group adoption call for draft-kklf-sidr-route-server-rpki-light-01
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On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Carlos M. Martinez <carlosm3011@gmail.com>
wrote:

> hey!
>
> On 5/5/16 3:30 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> >     > I think it's an interesting topic to discuss, I'm a little worried
> >     > that: "Because the third party said things are 'ok' I'll believe
> >     > things are ok!"
> >     >
> >     > mostly because I don't see a clear method to ensure that 'third
> party' has:
> >     >   1) up-to-date information
> >     >
> >       Same with RTR cache server.
> >
> >
> > ​except I run the server and can get some data about how updated/etc it
> > is with respect to collection of roa/etc data.​
>
> Not always. In a couple of IXs I know the RTR server is shared and is
> provided as a service to the IXs members.
>
> They trust each other enough to do this, so not trusting the route
> server would be kind of silly.
>
>
​sure, but I dont' always use the RS at the IX.​



> In any case, you, personally as an individual IX member, are free to
> have any misgivings about the operational expertise of the IX and you
> can adjust your BGP configs accordingly (de-prefing whatever you learn
> from elbonia-ix, ignoring validation state, overwriting communities). I
> just don't see an argument against what the draft proposes in the
> scenario you describe.
>
> However, if you dis-trust a particular IX too much, maybe you just
> should de-peer them. But we disgress :-)
>

​yea, so... I didn't REALLY want to rathole the conversation. I'm perfectly
happy if consenting adults want to do this, that's cool. I may not? I may
in some places because I can't solve my problem other ways?

I don't think bending things like this is particularly bad, as long as
people understand what they walked into/on.



>
> -Carlos
>
> PS: I loved the name Elbonia, Can I license it from you ? :-)
>
>
​absolutely... Elbonia and Westonia.. they are bad places, (depending on
your perspective of course.. if you are elbonian, you dislike westonians...
and vice/versa) :)​



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