Re: [sidr] Terry Manderson's Discuss on draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> Wed, 18 May 2016 15:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sidr] Terry Manderson's Discuss on draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Tim,

On 5/18/16 10:32 AM, Tim Bruijnzeels wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> On 18 May 2016, at 15:08, Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Terry,
>> 
>> On 5/17/16 11:37 PM, Terry Manderson wrote:
>>> Terry Manderson has entered the following ballot position for 
>>> draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-11: Discuss
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found
>>> here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> 
DISCUSS:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> 
Thank you for putting substantial effort into this document.
>>> 
>>> I have a few discusses. I hope they can be resolved quickly.
>>> 
>>> In Section 2.1. The reference to the aligned certificate  which
>>> has the same private key that signed the RPSL object is
>>> mandatory, and defined by a RSYNC URL or a HTTP(S) URL. My
>>> question surrounds the "or". The architecture of RPKI (IIRC) is
>>> centered around RSYNC, and thus SIA/AIA values MUST have a RSYNC
>>> URL, and MAY have other types. By this are you leaving it to the
>>> issuing party to control the RPKI Distribution mechanisms of the
>>> Replying Party? I am quite comfortable with "or" personally,
>>> however this facet of fetching the RPSL Certificate to validate
>>> the private key usage is seemingly orthogonal to the RPKI 
>>> architecture of RSYNC preferred and should be called out if 'or'
>>> is the clear intention. Or, has the consensus of the WG moved on
>>> from being wedded to RSYNC?
>> 
>> I am not aware of the WG moving away from their rsync leanings...
> 
> My take on this: for the moment I would stick to rsync as it's
> required and EE certificates appearing in the rsync repository, and
> leave out http(s).
> 

If the consensus is to remove mention of an http(s) URI, I can live with
that. The current state of affairs within the SIDR documentation is such
that only an rsync URI will be feasible in the near future. I don't
believe that the mention of an http(s) URI in this context affects that
one way or the other.

Regards,
Brian