Re: [Sidrops] New Version Notification for draft-sriram-sidrops-drop-invalid-policy-00.txt

Stephen Kent <stkent@verizon.net> Fri, 09 March 2018 16:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] New Version Notification for draft-sriram-sidrops-drop-invalid-policy-00.txt
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Doug,

> Maybe another way to phrase this is, as far as we can tell (sec 4, RFC6483) the documented use of AS0 is a usage convention at best, i.e. does not have any specific normative requirements, beyond normal ROA / validation procedures.
Since 6483 is informational,  nothing it says is normative. However, 
RFCs 6491, 7606, and 7607 are standards track and the more relevant 
documents. Why did you not cite those RFCs and their (normative) 
statements for how AS 0 is to be treated in the RPKI context?

Steve