Re: [sip-clf] Defining Pros and Cons of ASCII/IPFIX

[Eric Burger <[e-mail]>]

I believe in de Toquville.  History repeats itself, and I see it repeating...

What will happen in SIPCLF is a repeat of H.248.

Since we cannot agree, we will agree to do both ASCII and binary (IPFIX).

Binary will be theoretically more efficient than ASCII.

Binary will be theoretically more useful for service providers.

ASCII, like the Internet, will work well enough for everyone.

Binary will die a quick death in the marketplace.

Personally, I am tired of arguing. Let us say we will do both, and the market will winnow things down to a single format.  I may be proved wrong, and that single format will be IPFIX.  Fine with me: so long as we end up with a single format, I will be happy.

That said, just ask Cullen: I have a strong track record on betting on IETF protocols.  I am willing to put USD 50 that within three years there will be one and only one format, and that format will be ASCII.  Any takers?

On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Peter Musgrave wrote:

> Hi all, 
> 
> As co-chair I am looking for a way to make a determination about how to meet the groups decision to move forward with just one format in a WG which has good support for two formats. 
> 
> In my (personal) opinion I think the objective is to develop something that will be widely implemented. I would like to solicit input from a larger audience - but first I think we need to frame the pros and cons.
> 
> I would like to suggest the following:
> 
> 1) Use the list and the Beijing meeting to come to a consensus on the pros and cons of each and the applications which may favour one format vs another. 
> 
> 2) Place these pros/cons on the WG Wiki [I can act as editor]
> 
> 3) Solicit input from SIP Implementors - referring them to the WG WIki
> - use the Columbia sip-implementors, sipforum list and SIPT27
> 
> 4) Review the feedback and try to come to a conclusion on the list (or failing that, in Prague at IETF80)
> 
> I will be at SIPIT27 - so I can raise awareness of this discussion in that community. 
> 
> How do people feel about this approach?
> 
> I welcome any other/additional ways to resolve this issue. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Peter Musgrave
> co-chair
> 
> 
> 
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