RE: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP
Raphael Tryster <raphael@tdsoft.com> Sun, 15 February 2004 08:21 UTC
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From: Raphael Tryster <raphael@tdsoft.com>
To: 'Cullen Jennings' <fluffy@cisco.com>, sip@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:13:52 +0200
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Hello Cullen, Given that this is my first venture into the SIP email forum, and the first response to your posting, it is only fitting that I should vote for option c:). During the coming year or two, I hope to develop an opinion on whether the issues of backward compatibility and ease of debugging, which seem to make the binary option rather unpopular in Megaco, apply to SIP as well. If they do, it could have an adverse affect on World Hunger, as those with the right tools to debug binary messages will eat more, at the expense of the rest. Raphael Tryster -----Original Message----- From: Cullen Jennings [SMTP:fluffy@cisco.com] Sent: Sunday, 15 February 2004 9:03 To: sip@ietf.org Subject: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP I submitted a draft on binary encoding for SIP. This improves interoperability, improves speed, decreases sizes of messages, and generally makes life better for SIP which will no doubt eventually help with World Hunger. I need feedback, please let me know: a) Yah, lets do it b) No this is a stupid ideas and here are the reasons why c) There has not been many list comments, this draft involves some very complex issues. I need a year or two to develop an opinion on the single sentence inside it. d) I agree with Cowboy Willis Until it arrives in the archives, you can find it at http://www.employees.org/~fluffy/ietf/draft-jennings-sip-mime-01.html or, if you prefer ASCII encodings of everything, www.employees.org/~fluffy/ietf/draft-jennings-sip-mime-01.txt Thanks, Cullen _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
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