Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP
Rohan Mahy <rohan@cisco.com> Wed, 18 February 2004 12:55 UTC
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Cc: 'Cullen Jennings' <fluffy@cisco.com>, sip@ietf.org
From: Rohan Mahy <rohan@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 04:53:14 -0800
To: Raphael Tryster <raphael@tdsoft.com>
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Hi Raphael, Just as an FYI: The "unpopular" encoding for H.248 is ASN.1 encoding of the entire protocol. What Cullen is proposing is sending all *MIME bodies* in SIP as a stream of raw binary data (like HTTP). This is instead of sending SIP MIME bodes as a stream of base64-encoded data for example, which is unnecessary in modern protocols, but was required in email for backwards compatibility reasons. (btw: I vote for a) thanks, -rohan On Feb 15, 2004, at 12:13 AM, Raphael Tryster wrote: > Hello Cullen, > > Given that this is my first venture into the SIP email forum, and the > first response to your posting, it is only fitting that I should vote > for option c:). > > During the coming year or two, I hope to develop an opinion on whether > the issues of backward compatibility and ease of debugging, which seem > to make the binary option rather unpopular in Megaco, apply to SIP as > well. If they do, it could have an adverse affect on World Hunger, as > those with the right tools to debug binary messages will eat more, at > the expense of the rest. > > Raphael Tryster > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cullen Jennings [SMTP:fluffy@cisco.com] > Sent: Sunday, 15 February 2004 9:03 > To: sip@ietf.org > Subject: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP > > > I submitted a draft on binary encoding for SIP. This improves > interoperability, improves speed, decreases sizes of messages, and > generally > makes life better for SIP which will no doubt eventually help with > World > Hunger. I need feedback, please let me know: > > a) Yah, lets do it > > b) No this is a stupid ideas and here are the reasons why > > c) There has not been many list comments, this draft involves some very > complex issues. I need a year or two to develop an opinion on the > single > sentence inside it. > > d) I agree with Cowboy Willis > > Until it arrives in the archives, you can find it at > > http://www.employees.org/~fluffy/ietf/draft-jennings-sip-mime-01.html > > or, if you prefer ASCII encodings of everything, > > www.employees.org/~fluffy/ietf/draft-jennings-sip-mime-01.txt > > Thanks, Cullen > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Cullen Jennings
- RE: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Raphael Tryster
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP neil quiogue
- RE: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP George Foti (QC/EMC)
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Rohan Mahy
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Bryan Thale
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Kumiko Ono
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Bryan Thale
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP Cullen Jennings