Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP

Kumiko Ono <ono.kumiko@lab.ntt.co.jp> Fri, 20 February 2004 09:55 UTC

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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:53:02 +0900
From: Kumiko Ono <ono.kumiko@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Binary Encoding for SIP
To: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>, Bryan Thale <bryan.thale@motorola.com>, sip@ietf.org, Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
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Hi Cullen,

I am for 'a'. However, there may be some proxy severs who have the 
capability in handling 8-bit (text) data, not binary data. There may be 
an impact on all SIP entities including proxy servers that need not 
handle S/MIME data. 

Regards,
Kumiko 

>I sat for a long time looking at that one MUST and trying to decide if it
>should be a SHOULD. I also avoided mentioning what Henning points is the
>more interesting question of what must all UAs be willing to receive.
>
>So I take if you would be happy to see is say that things SHOULD send binary
>but need to be prepared to receive anything.
>
>I can live with that. Fits a certain stringent in what you send, lenient in
>what you receive model that I like. I doubt that implementers will be busy
>to go off and implement receiving multiple different things when there is no
>apparent value to doing that. It would solve my one really key issues which
>is that I would like to give enough guidance on the minimum to implement
>that things like S/MIME had a better chance of working together.
>
>Cullen
>
>
>
>On 2/17/04 9:44 AM, "Bryan Thale" <bryan.thale@motorola.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cullen,
>> 
>> I'd vote for 'b', not because the idea is stupid but because it is
>> unnecessary.  Why restrict the ability of the end-point service to
>> choose the most efficient encoding for its purposes?  If that happens to
>> be 'binary' then great, but if not, that's OK, too.
>> 
>> I agree with this sentiment from your draft:
>> 
>>> ... it is reasonable to suggest that SIP implementations send one type
>>> of encoding
>> 
>> 
>> However, this is at odds with the ultimate recommendation of your draft:
>> 
>>> Devices MUST use a content transfer encoding of "binary" for MIME body
>>> parts in SIP messages they send.
>> 
>> 
>> If the problem is that implementors are inappropriately choosing Base64
>> due to lack of sufficient guidance, I would prefer to see "Devices
>> SHOULD use ..." instead.  It provides the needed guidance and yet does
>> not arbitrarily close doors on possible future implementations.
>> 
>> Bryan.
>
>
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