[Sip] Re: [RAI] RAI review of draft-ietf-sip-hitchhikers-guide-03

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Francois Audet wrote:
> What about SIPS, which is already in hitchiker's guide, and which is 
> waiting on outbound because of a normative reference?
> 
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>     *From:* DRAGE, Keith (Keith) [mailto:drage@alcatel-lucent.com]
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2007 01:01
>     *To:* Avshalom Houri; rai@ietf.org; sip@ietf.org; jdrosen@cisco.com
>     *Subject:* RE: [RAI] RAI review of draft-ietf-sip-hitchhikers-guide-03
> 
>     (As WG chair)
>      
>     Just a note that I should have included with the WGLC.
>      
>     The intention with this document is to republish on a recurring
>     basis, and therefore to keep it up to date (say once a year or so).
>      
>     The 1st versions is intended to include gruu, outbound and ice, but
>     apart from that, anything that is not published in that timeframe
>     will probably be removed unless there is exceptional justification
>     for keeping it, with the idea that it will appear in the next version.

This is news to me...

What I thought would happen is that we have references to everything in 
the guide, and when the guide appears as an RFC, whatever references are 
at RFC status at that time, get RFC numbers. Everything else is 
referenced as an I-D.

I think you are suggesting that, instead, when we send this to IESG, we 
remove any content and references associated with documents which are 
not on track to publication around the same timeframe as hitchhikers 
guide itself. Indeed it will require us to change those references to 
normative in order to get rfc-editor to do a REF hold on hitchhikers 
till its dependencies clear.

If my interpretation is correct, my next question is whether this 
applies to just the core specs or all of the specs.

I personally would rather leave the document as is - include everything, 
and recognize that some references will be drafts rather than RFCs when 
hitchhikers is published. Next round of hitchhikers will have more of 
them as RFCs.

-Jonathan R.

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