RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap,sense of consensus and a proposal for direction.
"Elwell, John" <john.elwell@siemens.com> Thu, 01 November 2007 11:12 UTC
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From: "Elwell, John" <john.elwell@siemens.com>
Subject: RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap,sense of consensus and a proposal for direction.
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Hadrial, You wrote: > The sticky part in my mind has always been what to do if both > info-dtmf were negotiated and 2833/4733 was offered/answered. > Or even what to do with in-audio tones. I *think* the > answer is info-dtmf should trump 2833 - i.e., if you > negotiated info-dtmf only do that, for a variety of reasons; > but with delayed SDP offers that would mean you'd always end > up using info-dtmf when you could have done 2833 instead. > And I can see the argument for "do both", and that's what > kpml did except it has the suppression/<pre> concept, but I > assumed that was due to pattern matching being inconsistent > with in-band event sending one-at-a-time. But I still think > info-dtmf trumping would be right, because the tones will get > to the far end if they should. [JRE] Performance is a consideration with DTMF, because the speed with which the user receives a response from the server can have impact on the user experience. RFC 2833 is always likely to get through quicker. John _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Elwell, John
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a pro… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Robert Sparks
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- [Sip] Mutual subscriptions Frank W. Miller
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Henry Sinnreich
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Frank W. Miller
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Francois Audet
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Robert Sparks
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Francois Audet
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Robert Sparks
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Hadriel Kaplan
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Hadriel Kaplan
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Adam Roach
- Re: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Francois Audet
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Hadriel Kaplan
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap,sense of consensus and a … Elwell, John
- DTMF timing (was Re: [Sip] INFO ...) Dean Willis
- RE: DTMF timing (was Re: [Sip] INFO ...) Kevin Attard Compagno
- RE: DTMF timing (was Re: [Sip] INFO ...) Michael Procter
- Re: DTMF timing (was Re: [Sip] INFO ...) Dean Willis
- RE: DTMF timing (was Re: [Sip] INFO ...) Hadriel Kaplan
- RE: DTMF timing (was Re: [Sip] INFO ...) Eric Burger
- RE: [Sip] INFO: A recap, sense of consensus and a… Eric Burger