RE: [Sip] draft-jennings-sip-hashcash-01

"Francois Audet" <audet@nortel.com> Thu, 03 March 2005 19:48 UTC

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From: Francois Audet <audet@nortel.com>
To: 'Cullen Jennings' <fluffy@cisco.com>, 'Jonathan Rosenberg' <jdrosen@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: [Sip] draft-jennings-sip-hashcash-01
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:46:00 -0500
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As a separate note, shouldn't we try to solve the HERFP problem?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Cullen Jennings
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:16
> To: Jonathan Rosenberg
> Cc: sip@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Sip] draft-jennings-sip-hashcash-01
> 
> 
> On 3/2/05 2:15 AM, "Jonathan Rosenberg" <jdrosen@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> > 1. The mechanism interacts badly with forking at the moment. One 
> > problem is HERFP. If I have a mix of endpoints, some of 
> which support 
> > this (and thus send a 419), and others that don't (and thus 
> ring the 
> > phone), then you'll end up always completing the call on 
> the endpoints 
> > that don't support the extension.
> 
> Good point. I think will mention this in the draft but 
> clearly I won't attempt to solve the well studied HERFP 
> problem. As a separate issues, some day the WG should discuss 
> the limitations of the "If it hurts don't do it" solution to 
> the HERFP problem.
> 
> > 
> > 2. THe mechanism doesn't provide a way for a proxy to aggregate 
> > multiple Puzzle headers from forked branches. It needs to 
> do something 
> > like WWW-Authenticate where a proxy collects these from the various 
> > 419 and places all of them in the 419 forwarded upstream. That will 
> > also require something akin to realm, that allows a 
> UA/proxy to pull 
> > out its own puzzle.
> 
> Oops. Excellent point. Thanks, will fix this. 
> 
> 
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