Re: [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonna cause problems
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com> Mon, 30 August 2010 12:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonna cause problems
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[as individual] Mary Barnes wrote: >> Second, it accounts for SIP/SIPS but not TEL URIs. > [MB] The value for this URI parameter is determined by the same > mechanisms by which the target parameter is determined by a proxy when > accessing a location service database. So, it's not clear to me why > this URI parameter introduces a specific problem for tel-URIs. [/MB] TEL URIs can't have URI parameters in the way that SIP URIs can. >> Third, it should be a >> header param not a URI param, I think (which would solve the previous >> issues). > > [MB] It's not at all clear to me why you think this needs to be a > header parameter or how such would solve the problems you anticipate > (although that's because I don't understand what problems you think > will happen with the current approach).[/MB] IMO its a red flag any time there is talk about a URI parameter that is only to be used when that URI is present in a particular header. That is a case that instead calls for a header parameter. Having it be a URI parameter then raises all sorts of questions about what should happen if that parameter appears in the URI in some other context. (We've been seeing that problem a lot with TEL URI parameters.) Thanks, Paul
- [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonna ca… sipcore issue tracker
- Re: [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonn… Mary Barnes
- Re: [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonn… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonn… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonn… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonn… sipcore issue tracker
- Re: [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonn… Elwell, John
- Re: [sipcore] #4: The new "hit" parameter is gonn… Mary Barnes