RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists

"Orit Levin" <oritl@microsoft.com> Tue, 09 December 2003 00:50 UTC

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Subject: RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists
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From: Orit Levin <oritl@microsoft.com>
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Do you mean providing a kind of "operation" definition such as in
draft-levin-simple-adhoc-list-01.txt?

       <xs:element name="adhoclist">
          <xs:complexType>

            <xs:sequence>
              <xs:element name="delete" type="roster" minOccurs="0"
maxOccurs="1"/>
              <xs:element name="create" type="roster" minOccurs="0"
maxOccurs="1"/>
              <xs:element name="add"    type="roster" minOccurs="0"
maxOccurs="1"/>
              <xs:any     minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" />
            </xs:sequence>

            <xs:attribute name="uri" type="xs:anyURI" use="required" />
            <xs:attribute name="name" type="xs:string" use="required" />
            <xs:anyAttribute />
          </xs:complexType>
        </xs:element>

Here "roster" stands for "resources-list". 

If yes, I would suggest adding this definition to the
"camarillo-sipping-uri-list" draft (as MMIME or as a part of a single
XML schema) in order to standardise on it ASAP. Then I will be able to
update my draft with just a pointer to the Sipping draft. When are you
planning to submit the next version?

Also, could you, please, emphasize that the "Examples" section is
informative only because the application-specific behavior details need
to be defined in SIMPLE and cc-conferencing drafts.

Thanks a lot,
Orit. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Gonzalo Camarillo [mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:24 AM
To: Orit Levin
Cc: sipping; Adam Roach; Aki.Niemi@nokia.com;
Hisham.Khartabil@nokia.com; Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com
Subject: Re: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists

Orit,

> 1. How do you propose sending the deltas? (Consistently with the 
> updated requirements' draft.)

The idea would be to send them as a URI parameter of a subsequent
request. Which request to use would depend on the application you are
implementing. For example, for ad-hoc presence, the natural choice would
be a SUBSCRIBE.

Regarding how to indicate that what you are sending is a delta rather
than a full list, it should be handled by the XML definition of the
list.

Gonzalo





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