RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists

["Orit Levin" <[e-mail]>]

Just to clarify:

This specific part (i.e. using XCAP schema alone) does not meet the
delta requirements right now. "Operations" need to be appended to
list/roster XML schema in order to do this.

Orit.

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Subject: RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists

Hi,

I also like the approach for carrying lists proposed in
http://standards.ericsson.net/gonzalo/papers/draft-camarillo-sipping-exp
loders-01.txt

For me the best part is how this aligns with XCAP list usage, since I
believe that we should be able to do the exactly same things using both
ad hoc and pre-provisioned lists. 

Markus 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Orit Levin [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 25 November, 2003 01:46
> To: Orit Levin; Gonzalo Camarillo; sipping
> Cc: Adam Roach; Niemi Aki (NMP/Helsinki); Khartabil Hisham
> (NMP-MSW/Helsinki); Isomaki Markus (NRC/Helsinki)
> Subject: RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists
> 
> 
> I am removing my second question.
> (I re-read the xcap-list-usage-01 and found out that the "name" is the
> only required attribute - i.e. the only key which could be the URI
> itself.)
> 
> Thanks,
> Orit.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
> Of Orit Levin
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:45 PM
> To: Gonzalo Camarillo; sipping
> Cc: Adam Roach; [e-mail]; [e-mail];
> [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists
> 
> I like the direction.
> 
> Two questions:
> 1. How do you propose sending the deltas? (Consistently with 
> the updated
> requirements' draft.)
> 2. How do you propose managing the "entry_name" - especially 
> on a B2BUA
> that perform the "explosion" and needs to automatically break up the
> received list into different lists and pack them again?
> 
> My thinking was to use an XML schema such as in my updated
> draft-levin-simple-adhoc-list-01.txt that should appear in the IETF
> directory soon:
> 
>    <xs:schema targetNamespace="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:adrl"
>               elementFormDefault="qualified"
>               xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:adrl"
>               xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
> 
>      <xs:element name="adhoclist">
>        <xs:complexType>
> 
>          <xs:sequence>
>            <xs:element name="delete" type="roster" minOccurs="0"
> maxOccurs="1"/>
>            <xs:element name="create" type="roster" minOccurs="0"
> maxOccurs="1"/>
>            <xs:element name="add"    type="roster" minOccurs="0"
> maxOccurs="1"/>
>            <xs:any     minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" />
>          </xs:sequence>
> 
>          <xs:attribute name="uri" type="xs:anyURI" use="required" />
>          <xs:attribute name="name" type="xs:string" use="required" />
>          <xs:anyAttribute />
>        </xs:complexType>
>      </xs:element>
> 
>        <xs:complexType name="roster">
>          <xs:sequence>
>            <xs:element ref="resource" minOccurs="0"
> maxOccurs="unbounded" />
>          </xs:sequence>
>          <xs:anyAttribute />
>        </xs:complexType>
> 
>      <xs:element name="resource">
>          <xs:attribute name="uri" type="xs:anyURI" use="required" />
>          <xs:attribute name="name" type="xs:string" use="optional" />
>          <xs:anyAttribute />
>      </xs:element>
> 
>    </xs:schema>
> 
> Orit.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
> Of Gonzalo Camarillo
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:39 AM
> To: sipping
> Cc: Adam Roach; [e-mail]; [e-mail];
> [e-mail]
> Subject: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists
> 
> Folks,
> 
> we have just submitted three drafts about exploders and ad-hoc lists.
> 
> We have added more requirements to the following draft. The new 
> requirements were mainly discussed in the SIMPLE mailing list.
> 
> http://standards.ericsson.net/gonzalo/papers/draft-camarillo-s
> ipping-exp
> loders-01.txt
> 
> The following draft describes how to carry lists of URIs in SIP 
> requests. It is not a finished draft. It is intended to trigger 
> discussions on this topic to see whether this is a step the right
> direction.
> 
> http://standards.ericsson.net/gonzalo/papers/draft-camarillo-s
ipping-uri
-list-00.txt

The following draft defines a new method called EXPLODE. EXPLODE does 
the same as REFER. That is, it tells a UA to send a request somewhere. 
The differences are that EXPLODE accepts more than one destination 
(REFER carries a single Refer-To header field) and that EXPLODE does not

establish implicit subscriptions of any type. This draft is also 
intended to trigger discussions within the WG.

http://standards.ericsson.net/gonzalo/papers/draft-camarillo-sipping-exp
lode-method-00.txt

Let's try to keep discussions about this topic in the SIPPING mailing 
list. I will forward this mail to the SIMPLE mailing list to let them
know.

Comments are welcome,

Gonzalo



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