RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists
"Orit Levin" <oritl@microsoft.com> Mon, 24 November 2003 23:47 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists
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From: Orit Levin <oritl@microsoft.com>
To: Orit Levin <oritl@microsoft.com>, Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>, sipping <sipping@ietf.org>
Cc: Adam Roach <adam@dynamicsoft.com>, Aki.Niemi@nokia.com, Hisham.Khartabil@nokia.com, Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com
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I am removing my second question. (I re-read the xcap-list-usage-01 and found out that the "name" is the only required attribute - i.e. the only key which could be the URI itself.) Thanks, Orit. -----Original Message----- From: sipping-admin@ietf.org [mailto:sipping-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Orit Levin Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:45 PM To: Gonzalo Camarillo; sipping Cc: Adam Roach; Aki.Niemi@nokia.com; Hisham.Khartabil@nokia.com; Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com Subject: RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists I like the direction. Two questions: 1. How do you propose sending the deltas? (Consistently with the updated requirements' draft.) 2. How do you propose managing the "entry_name" - especially on a B2BUA that perform the "explosion" and needs to automatically break up the received list into different lists and pack them again? My thinking was to use an XML schema such as in my updated draft-levin-simple-adhoc-list-01.txt that should appear in the IETF directory soon: <xs:schema targetNamespace="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:adrl" elementFormDefault="qualified" xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:adrl" xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"> <xs:element name="adhoclist"> <xs:complexType> <xs:sequence> <xs:element name="delete" type="roster" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/> <xs:element name="create" type="roster" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/> <xs:element name="add" type="roster" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/> <xs:any minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" /> </xs:sequence> <xs:attribute name="uri" type="xs:anyURI" use="required" /> <xs:attribute name="name" type="xs:string" use="required" /> <xs:anyAttribute /> </xs:complexType> </xs:element> <xs:complexType name="roster"> <xs:sequence> <xs:element ref="resource" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" /> </xs:sequence> <xs:anyAttribute /> </xs:complexType> <xs:element name="resource"> <xs:attribute name="uri" type="xs:anyURI" use="required" /> <xs:attribute name="name" type="xs:string" use="optional" /> <xs:anyAttribute /> </xs:element> </xs:schema> Orit. -----Original Message----- From: sipping-admin@ietf.org [mailto:sipping-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gonzalo Camarillo Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:39 AM To: sipping Cc: Adam Roach; Aki.Niemi@nokia.com; Hisham.Khartabil@nokia.com; Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com Subject: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Folks, we have just submitted three drafts about exploders and ad-hoc lists. We have added more requirements to the following draft. The new requirements were mainly discussed in the SIMPLE mailing list. http://standards.ericsson.net/gonzalo/papers/draft-camarillo-sipping-exp loders-01.txt The following draft describes how to carry lists of URIs in SIP requests. It is not a finished draft. It is intended to trigger discussions on this topic to see whether this is a step the right direction. http://standards.ericsson.net/gonzalo/papers/draft-camarillo-sipping-uri -list-00.txt The following draft defines a new method called EXPLODE. EXPLODE does the same as REFER. That is, it tells a UA to send a request somewhere. The differences are that EXPLODE accepts more than one destination (REFER carries a single Refer-To header field) and that EXPLODE does not establish implicit subscriptions of any type. This draft is also intended to trigger discussions within the WG. http://standards.ericsson.net/gonzalo/papers/draft-camarillo-sipping-exp lode-method-00.txt Let's try to keep discussions about this topic in the SIPPING mailing list. I will forward this mail to the SIMPLE mailing list to let them know. Comments are welcome, Gonzalo _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Gonzalo Camarillo
- RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Orit Levin
- RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Orit Levin
- RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Markus.Isomaki
- RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Orit Levin
- Re: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Exploders anad ad-hoc lists Orit Levin