Re: [Softwires] WG Review: Recharter of Softwires (softwire)

Tom Taylor <tom111.taylor@bell.net> Wed, 20 April 2011 01:16 UTC

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Would Gateway-Initiated 6rd [draft-tsou-softwire-gwinit-6rd] fit within 
the charter or would it have to go the AD-sponsored route?

On 19/04/2011 12:36 PM, IESG Secretary wrote:
> A modified charter has been submitted for the Softwires (softwire) working
> group in the Internet Area of the IETF.  The IESG has not made any
> determination as yet.  The modified charter is provided below for
> informational purposes only.  Please send your comments to the IESG
> mailing list (iesg@ietf.org) by Tuesday, April 26, 2011.
>
>
> Softwires (softwire)
> **DRAFT 2011-04-14** (v03)
> --------------------
> Current Status: Active
>
>   Chairs:
>       Alain Durand<adurand@juniper.net>
>       Yong Cui<cuiyong@tsinghua.edu.cn>
>
>   Internet Area Directors:
>       Ralph Droms<rdroms.ietf@gmail.com>
>       Jari Arkko<jari.arkko@piuha.net>
>
>   Internet Area Advisor:
>       Ralph Droms<rdroms.ietf@gmail.com>
>
>   Mailing Lists:
>       General Discussion: softwires@ietf.org
>       To Subscribe:       softwires-request@ietf.org
>       Archive:
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/softwires/current/maillist.html
>
> Description of Working Group:
>
>    The Softwires Working Group is specifying the standardization of
>    discovery, control and encapsulation methods for connecting IPv4
>    networks across IPv6 networks and IPv6 networks across IPv4 networks
>    in a way that will encourage multiple, inter-operable
>    implementations.
>
>    For various reasons, native IPv4 and/or IPv6 transport may not be
>    available in all cases, and there is a need to tunnel IPv4 in IPv6
>    or IPv6 in IPv4 to cross a part of the network which is not IPv4 or
>    IPv6 capable. The Softwire Problem Statement, RFC 4925, identifies
>    two distinct topological scenarios that the WG will provide
>    solutions for: "Hubs and Spokes" and "Mesh." In the former case,
>    hosts or "stub" networks are attached via individual,
>    point-to-point, IPv4 over IPv6 or IPv6 over IPv4 softwires to a
>    centralized Softwire Concentrator. In the latter case (Mesh),
>    network islands of one Address Family (IPv4 or IPv6) are connected
>    over a network of another Address Family via point to multi-point
>    softwires among Address family Border Routers (AFBRs).
>
>    The WG will reuse existing technologies as much as possible and only
>    when necessary, create additional protocol building blocks.
>
>    For generality, all base Softwires encapsulation mechanisms should
>    support all combinations of IP versions over one other (IPv4 over
>    IPv6, IPv6 over IPv4, IPv4 over IPv4, IPv6 over IPv6). IPv4 to IPv6
>    translation mechanisms (NAT-PT), new addressing schemes, and block
>    address assignments are out of scope. DHCP options developed in this
>    working group will be reviewed jointly with the DHC WG.  RADIUS
>    attributes developed in this working group will be reviewed jointly
>    with the RADEXT WG.  The MIB Doctors directorate will be asked to
>    review any MIB modules developed in the SOFTWIRE working group.  BGP
>    and other routing and signaling protocols developed in this group
>    will be reviewed jointly with the proper working groups and other
>    workings that may take interest (e.g. IDR, L3VPN, PIM, LDP, SAAG,
>    etc).
>
>    The specific work areas for this working group are:
>
>    1. Developments for Mesh softwires topology; the Mesh topology work
>       will be reviewed in the l3vpn and idr WGs
>       - multicast
>       - MIB module
>
>    2. Developments for 6rd:
>       - multicast
>       - operational specification
>       - RADIUS option for 6rd server
>       - MIB module
>
>    3. Developments for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite):
>       - multicast
>       - operational specification
>       - RADIUS option for AFTR
>       - proxy extensions; GI-DS-Lite; DS-Lite with no NAT or NAT on the
>         B4 element
>       - MIB module
>
>    4. Developments for stateless legacy IPv4 carried over IPv6
>       - develop a solution motivation document to be published as an
>         RFC
>       - develop a protocol specification response to the solution
> motivation
>         document; this work item will not be taken through WG last call
>         until the solution motivation document has been published
>
>    5. Finalize discovery and configuration mechanisms for a gateway to
>       use DS-Lite or 6rd; these discovery and configuration mechanisms
>       must take into a account other operating environments such as
>       dual-stack and tunneling mechanisms not defined by the softwire
>       WG.  Development of new mechanisms will involve the dhc and/or
>       v6ops WGs as appropriate
>
> Other work items would require WG approval and rechartering.
>
> Goals and Milestones:
> Apr 2011 Submit DS-lite RADIUS option for Proposed Standard
> Apr 2011 Adopt DS-lite operational document as WG document
> Jul 2011 Submit 6rd RADIUS option for Proposed Standard
> Jul 2011 Submit GI DS-lite for Proposed Standard
> Jul 2011 Adopt B4NAT as WG document
> Aug 2011 Adopt 6rd operational document as WG document
> Aug 2011 Adopt Multicast extensions document as WG document
> Aug 2011 Submit DS-lite operational document for Informational
> Sep 2011 Submit B4NAT for Informational
> Nov 2011 Submit Multicast extensions document for Informational
> Nov 2011 Submit 6rd operational document for Informational
> Nov 2011 Adopt 6rd MIB module as WG document
> Nov 2011 Adopt DS-lite MIB module as WG document
> Nov 2011 Adopt Mesh topology MIB module as WG document
> Nov 2012 Submit 6rd MIB module for Proposed Standard
> Nov 2012 Submit DS-lite MIB module for Proposed Standard
> Nov 2012 Submit Mesh topology MIB module for Proposed Standard
>
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