Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Sep. 26-27
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Ole, all, New agenda looks fine, with some comments and suggestions below. |-----Original Message----- |From: Ole Troan [mailto:otroan@employees.org] |Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:28 PM |To: Yong Cui; Alain Durand |Cc: softwires@ietf.org; liziye |Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Sep. 26-27 | |all, | |we're working on many interrelated problems: | |1. DS-lite with A+P (SMAP) |2. Provisioning of IPv4 over DS-lite (4over6) 3. Stateless |IPv4 address sharing over IPv6 (4rd, dIVI) 4. Stateless IPv4 |over IPv6 tunneling (SA46) | |given that the main focus of the interim is 3. let me propose |an alternative agenda for Monday. |same topics, just different structure. | |Monday: |1. Intro, logistics, chairs | |2. Stateless IPv4 address sharing overview and requirements | - Xiaohong: |http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-behave-ipv6-portrange-04 | - Xiaohong: |http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-r |equirements-00 | - Satoru: |http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-mo |tivation-00 | - Wojciech: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dec-stateless-4v6-03 | - Xiaohong: |http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-v6ops-aplusp-experiment-r |esults-01 Updated version: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-softwire-aplusp-experiment-results-00 | | 2.1. dIVI | - Xing: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi-pd | - Xing: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi | | 2.2. 4rd | - Tetsuya: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-00 | | 2.3 Summary: | - Ole Troan: Comparision between encapsulation and translation | - Hui Deng: Comparision between encapsulation and translation | | 2.4. Stateless address mapping algorithms | - Ole port algorithm requirements, selection criteria | - Remi: |http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-stateless-ana |lysis-tool-00 Missed one item here? Jacni Qin: Stateless Address Mapping for IPv4 Residual Deployment (4rd) http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-addmapping-00 | - Xiaohong: Suggested speaker: Wojciech? |http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-in |dex-analysis-00 | |Tuesday: |3. DS-lite enhancements (4over6, NAT bypass...) 4. |Operator-session 5. Conclusions | |cheers, |Ole | |> =================================================== |> AGENDA |> =================================================== |> ---------------9/26 Monday 9:00-17:30--------------- |> |> FIT BUILDING 1-315, TSINGHUA UNIVERSITY |> |> 1.Intro, logistic (30min) - Chairs |> 9:00-9:30 |> Taxonomy, problem space: (stateful/stateless, translation/tunneling, |> etc.) Starting point: operator-driven Stateless motivation draft and |> the 4-quadrant discussion at Quebec |> Goal: have a common terminology |> |> |> 2. Deep Dive (7hours) - Chairs and presenters Technical dive in all |> proposal as they stand today |> Goal: understand the various proposals according to the common |> terminology and how they fit in the problem space |> Goal2: Refine terminology/problem space as we go |> |> 9:30-10:30 Xiaohong Deng |> 1. Architectural considerations of Stateless A+P with a focus on SMAP |> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-behave-ipv6-portrange-04 |> 2. DHCPv6 Options for Shared IP Addresses Solutions |> |http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-dhcpv6-shared-address-optio |> n-00 |> |> 10:30-10:45 Coffee break |> |> 10:45-11:15 Peng Wu |> DHCPv4 over IPv6 |> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cui-softwire-dhcp-over-tunnel |> |> 11:15-12:15 Naoki Matsuhira |> Motivation for developing SA46T and SA46T-AS |> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-motivation-00 |> SA46T & SA46T-AS technology dive |> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-spec-02 |> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-as-00 |> |> --------------- 12:15-13:30 Lunch --------------- |> |> 13:30-14:00 Tetsuya Murakami |> IPv4 Residual Deployment on IPv6 infrastructure - protocol |> specification |> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-00 |> |> 14:00-14:30 Jacni Qin |> Stateless Address Mapping for IPv4 Residual Deployment (4rd) |> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-addmapping-00 |> |> 14:30-15:30 Wojciech Dec |> 1. Stateless 4Via6 Address Sharing |> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dec-stateless-4v6 |> 2. Stateless port mapping algorithms overview |> |> 15:30-15:45Coffee break |> |> 15:45-16:15 Qiong Sun |> Lightweight 4over6 |> |http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite-01 |> |> 16:15-17:15 Xing Li |> 1. dIVI-pd: Dual-Stateless IPv4/IPv6 Translation with Prefix |> Delegation https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi-pd |> 2. dIVI: Dual-Stateless IPv4/IPv6 Translation |> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi |> |> 17:30-21:00 Socail Event (depart at FIT West Lobby at 17:30) |> |> |> --------------- Tuesday 8:30-17:30 --------------- |> |> 8:30-9:00 CERNET Operation Center tour (FIT 1-101, TSINGHUA |> UNIVERSITY) |> |> FIT BUILDING 1-315, TSINGHUA UNIVERSITY |> |> 9:00-10:00 Gang Chen |> 1. 4via6 Stateless Translation |> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation-00 |> 2. Prefix Delegation in 4V6 |> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chen-softwire-4v6-pd-00.txt |> |> 10:00-10:30 Xiaohong Deng |> DS-Lite AFTR NAT Bypass: Co-located B4 and NAT Model |> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zhou-softwire-b4-nat-02.txt |> |> 10:30-10:45 Coffee break |> |> |> 3.Invited talks from operators (90min) Operator's perspective |> |> 10:45-11:15 Satoru Matsushima |> An operator's view, address mapping in particular with our cases |> |> 11:15-11:45 Xing Li |> The operational requiements and the experience of the single |and dual |> stateless translation concerning CERNET (IPv4) and |CNGI-CERNET2 (IPv6). |> |> 11:45-12:15 ChongfengXie |> ChinaTelecom |> |> --------------- 12:15-13:30 Lunch --------------- |> |> |> FIT BUILDING 1-515, TSINGHUA UNIVERSITY |> |> 4.Divide& conquer (2 hours) |> Map technologies into problem space |> Goal: analyze overlaps & differences |> |> 13:30-14:00 Ole Troan |> Comparision between encapsulation and translation |> |> 14:00-14:30 Linjian Song |> Head compression |> |> 14:30-15:00 Hui Deng |> Comparision between encapsulation and translation |> |> 15:00-15:30 Ole Troan |> Port mapping rules |> |> 15:30-16:00 Rémi Després |> Port mapping rules |> |> 16:00-16:30 Coffee break |> |> 5. Path forward (1 hour) |> 16:30-17:30 |> Goal: evolution of technologies, integration with existing |mechanism, |> gap analysis |> Goal: winnow down list of candidates |> Chairs |> |> |> Alain and Yong |> |> |> |> _______________________________________________ |> Softwires mailing list |> Softwires@ietf.org |> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires | | |
- [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Sep. 2… Yong Cui
- [Softwires] FW: Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Yong Cui
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Naoki Matsuhira
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… xiaohong.deng
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Naoki Matsuhira
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Hui Deng
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Tao Sun
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… GangChen
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Tetsuya Murakami
- Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Se… Zhen Cao