Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Sep. 26-27

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Ole, all,

New agenda looks fine, with some comments and suggestions below. 

|-----Original Message-----
|From: Ole Troan [mailto:otroan@employees.org] 
|Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:28 PM
|To: Yong Cui; Alain Durand
|Cc: softwires@ietf.org; liziye
|Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Sep. 26-27
|
|all,
|
|we're working on many interrelated problems:
|
|1. DS-lite with A+P (SMAP)
|2. Provisioning of IPv4 over DS-lite (4over6) 3. Stateless 
|IPv4 address sharing over IPv6 (4rd, dIVI) 4. Stateless IPv4 
|over IPv6 tunneling (SA46)
|
|given that the main focus of the interim is 3. let me propose 
|an alternative agenda for Monday.
|same topics, just different structure.
|
|Monday:
|1. Intro, logistics, chairs
|
|2. Stateless IPv4 address sharing overview and requirements
|  - Xiaohong: 
|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-behave-ipv6-portrange-04
|  - Xiaohong: 
|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-r
|equirements-00
|  - Satoru: 
|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-mo
|tivation-00
|  - Wojciech: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dec-stateless-4v6-03
|  - Xiaohong: 
|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-v6ops-aplusp-experiment-r
|esults-01

Updated version:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-softwire-aplusp-experiment-results-00

|
| 2.1. dIVI
|  - Xing: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi-pd
|  - Xing: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi
|
| 2.2. 4rd
|  - Tetsuya: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-00
|
| 2.3 Summary:
|  - Ole Troan: Comparision between encapsulation and translation
|  - Hui Deng: Comparision between encapsulation and translation
|
| 2.4. Stateless address mapping algorithms
|  - Ole port algorithm requirements, selection criteria
|  - Remi: 
|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-stateless-ana
|lysis-tool-00

Missed one item here? 

Jacni Qin:
Stateless Address Mapping for IPv4 Residual Deployment (4rd)
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-addmapping-00

|  - Xiaohong: 


Suggested speaker: Wojciech?

|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-in
|dex-analysis-00
|
|Tuesday:
|3. DS-lite enhancements (4over6, NAT bypass...) 4. 
|Operator-session 5. Conclusions
|
|cheers,
|Ole
|
|> ===================================================
|>                     AGENDA
|> ===================================================
|> ---------------9/26 Monday 9:00-17:30---------------
|> 
|> FIT BUILDING 1-315, TSINGHUA UNIVERSITY
|> 
|> 1.Intro, logistic (30min) - Chairs
|> 9:00-9:30
|> Taxonomy, problem space: (stateful/stateless, translation/tunneling, 
|> etc.) Starting point: operator-driven Stateless motivation draft and 
|> the 4-quadrant discussion at Quebec
|> Goal: have a common terminology
|> 
|> 
|> 2. Deep Dive (7hours) - Chairs and presenters Technical dive in all 
|> proposal as they stand today
|> Goal: understand the various proposals according to the common 
|> terminology and how they fit in the problem space
|> Goal2: Refine terminology/problem space as we go
|> 
|> 9:30-10:30 Xiaohong Deng
|> 1. Architectural considerations of Stateless A+P with a focus on SMAP
|> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-behave-ipv6-portrange-04
|> 2. DHCPv6 Options for Shared IP Addresses Solutions 
|> 
|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-dhcpv6-shared-address-optio
|> n-00
|> 
|> 10:30-10:45 Coffee break
|> 
|> 10:45-11:15 Peng Wu
|> DHCPv4 over IPv6
|> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cui-softwire-dhcp-over-tunnel
|> 
|> 11:15-12:15 Naoki Matsuhira
|> Motivation for developing SA46T and SA46T-AS 
|> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-motivation-00
|> SA46T & SA46T-AS technology dive
|> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-spec-02
|> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-as-00
|> 
|> --------------- 12:15-13:30 Lunch ---------------
|> 
|> 13:30-14:00 Tetsuya Murakami
|> IPv4 Residual Deployment on IPv6 infrastructure - protocol 
|> specification 
|> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-00
|> 
|> 14:00-14:30 Jacni Qin
|> Stateless Address Mapping for IPv4 Residual Deployment (4rd) 
|> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-addmapping-00
|> 
|> 14:30-15:30 Wojciech Dec
|> 1. Stateless 4Via6 Address Sharing
|> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dec-stateless-4v6
|> 2. Stateless port mapping algorithms overview
|> 
|> 15:30-15:45Coffee break
|> 
|> 15:45-16:15 Qiong Sun
|> Lightweight 4over6
|> 
|http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite-01
|> 
|> 16:15-17:15 Xing Li
|> 1. dIVI-pd: Dual-Stateless IPv4/IPv6 Translation with Prefix 
|> Delegation https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi-pd
|> 2. dIVI: Dual-Stateless IPv4/IPv6 Translation 
|> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi
|> 
|> 17:30-21:00 Socail Event (depart at FIT West Lobby at 17:30)
|> 
|> 
|> --------------- Tuesday 8:30-17:30 ---------------
|> 
|> 8:30-9:00 CERNET Operation Center tour (FIT 1-101, TSINGHUA 
|> UNIVERSITY)
|> 
|> FIT BUILDING 1-315, TSINGHUA UNIVERSITY
|> 
|> 9:00-10:00 Gang Chen
|> 1. 4via6 Stateless Translation
|> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation-00
|> 2. Prefix Delegation in 4V6
|> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chen-softwire-4v6-pd-00.txt
|> 
|> 10:00-10:30 Xiaohong Deng
|> DS-Lite AFTR NAT Bypass: Co-located B4 and NAT Model 
|> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zhou-softwire-b4-nat-02.txt
|> 
|> 10:30-10:45 Coffee break
|> 
|> 
|> 3.Invited talks from operators (90min) Operator's perspective
|> 
|> 10:45-11:15 Satoru Matsushima
|> An operator's view, address mapping in particular with our cases
|> 
|> 11:15-11:45 Xing Li
|> The operational requiements and the experience of the single 
|and dual 
|> stateless translation concerning CERNET (IPv4) and 
|CNGI-CERNET2 (IPv6).
|> 
|> 11:45-12:15 ChongfengXie
|> ChinaTelecom
|> 
|> --------------- 12:15-13:30 Lunch ---------------
|> 
|> 
|> FIT BUILDING 1-515, TSINGHUA UNIVERSITY
|> 
|> 4.Divide& conquer (2 hours)
|> Map technologies into problem space
|> Goal: analyze overlaps & differences
|> 
|> 13:30-14:00 Ole Troan
|> Comparision between encapsulation and translation
|> 
|> 14:00-14:30 Linjian Song
|> Head compression
|> 
|> 14:30-15:00 Hui Deng
|> Comparision between encapsulation and translation
|> 
|> 15:00-15:30 Ole Troan
|> Port mapping rules
|> 
|> 15:30-16:00 Rémi Després
|> Port mapping rules
|> 
|> 16:00-16:30 Coffee break
|> 
|> 5. Path forward (1 hour)
|> 16:30-17:30
|> Goal: evolution of technologies, integration with existing 
|mechanism, 
|> gap analysis
|> Goal: winnow down list of candidates
|> Chairs
|> 
|> 
|> Alain and Yong
|> 
|> 
|> 
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