Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-related Internet-Drafts
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Thu, 15 June 2023 13:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-related Internet-Drafts
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Dear LAMPS WG: The LAMPS WG Chairs do not think that the three Internet-Drafts have achieved consensus for adoption. This does not mean that the LAMPS WG will not do any work on composite algorithms. Recall that the current LAMPS includes: 5.b. A lengthy transition from today's public key algorithms to PQC public key algorithms is expected. Time will be needed to gain full confidence in the new PQC public key algorithms. 5.b.i. The LAMPS WG will specify formats, identifiers, enrollment, and operational practices for "hybrid key establishment" that combines the shared secret values one or more traditional key-establishment algorithm and one or more NIST PQC key-establishment algorithm or a PQC key-establishment algorithm vetted by the CFRG. The shared secret values will be combined using HKDF (see RFC 5869), one of the key derivation functions in NIST SP 800-56C, or a key derivation function vetted by the CFRG. 5.b.ii. The LAMPS WG will specify formats, identifiers, enrollment, and operational practices for "dual signature" that combine one or more traditional signature algorithm with one or more NIST PQC signature algorithm or a PQC algorithm vetted by the CFRG. To address charter item 5.b.i, should the LAMPS WG adopt the "Composite KEM For Use In Internet PKI" in draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-kem-02? Please reply to this message by Wednesday, 28 June 2023 to voice your agreement or disagreement with adoption by the LAMPS WG. On behalf of the LAMPS WG Chairs, Russ > On May 30, 2023, at 3:42 PM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: > > Should the LAMPS WG adopt these three Internet-Drafts ... > > 1) "Composite Signatures For Use In Internet PKI" in draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-sigs-09? > > 2) "Composite Public and Private Keys For Use In Internet PKI" in draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-keys-05? > > 3) "Composite KEM For Use In Internet PKI" in draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-kem-02? > > This document was discussed in the LAMPS session at several IETF meetings. The authors sent a note saying that they incorporated the feedback that they received at IETF 116. > > Please reply to this message by Wednesday, 14 June 2023 to voice your agreement or disagreement with adoption by the LAMPS WG. > > On behalf of the LAMPS WG Chairs, > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm
- [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-relat… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Markowitz
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Carl Wallace
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Klaußner, Jan
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for the … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for the … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXT] Re: Call for adoption for the c… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXT] Re: Call for adoption for the c… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Seo Suchan
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Falko Strenzke
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Bruckert, Leonie
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… ietf@gazdag.de
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… antonio.vaira@siemens.com
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for the … Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Tomofumi Okubo
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth-pq-… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for draf… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Peter C
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Peter C
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Klaußner, Jan
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … John Gray
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Peter C
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Peter C
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… antonio.vaira@siemens.com
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth