Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for the composite-related Internet-Drafts
Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com> Mon, 19 June 2023 12:34 UTC
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From: Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
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Subject: Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for the composite-related Internet-Drafts
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I assume we'll be unwinding that. I-D.ounsworth-pq-composite-keys depends normatively on -keys; we can lift over the minimum viable set of things from -keys into -kems. The authors were on the fence about doing that anyway to make -sigs and -kems self-contained. It also depends informatively on -sigs, but that goes away if we remove this sentence, which is the only reference: "The authors wish to note that although all the composite structures defined in this and the companion documents [I-D.ounsworth-pq-composite-keys] and [I-D.ounsworth-pq-composite-sigs] pecifications are defined in such a way as to " --- Mike Ounsworth -----Original Message----- From: Spasm <spasm-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2023 8:45 PM To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>; Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Cc: LAMPS <spasm@ietf.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-related Internet-Drafts WARNING: This email originated outside of Entrust. DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe. ______________________________________________________________________ Hiya, On 15/06/2023 16:18, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: > > To address charter item 5.b.i, should the LAMPS WG adopt the "Composite > > KEM For Use In Internet PKI" in draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-kem-02? > > But, it references I-D.ounsworth-pq-composite-keys and -sigs normatively. > So, how could that work? I wondered about that too. Should we re-read it assuming that those references will be unwound should the draft be adopted? (I guess that's a question to the chairs.) Ta, S. > > > Please reply to this message by Wednesday, 28 June 2023 to voice your > > agreement or disagreement with adoption by the LAMPS WG. > > -- > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- *I*LIKE*TRAINS* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm Any email and files/attachments transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If this message has been sent to you in error, you must not copy, distribute or disclose of the information it contains. Please notify Entrust immediately and delete the message from your system.
- [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-relat… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Markowitz
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Carl Wallace
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Klaußner, Jan
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for the … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for the … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXT] Re: Call for adoption for the c… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXT] Re: Call for adoption for the c… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Seo Suchan
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Falko Strenzke
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Bruckert, Leonie
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… ietf@gazdag.de
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… antonio.vaira@siemens.com
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for the … Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Tomofumi Okubo
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth-pq-… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for draf… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Peter C
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Peter C
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Klaußner, Jan
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … John Gray
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Peter C
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Peter C
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… antonio.vaira@siemens.com
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth