Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH
Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Mon, 25 May 2020 15:58 UTC
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From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 17:58:42 +0200
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Subject: Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH
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Hi Ron, > It would be fair to say that these operators "wish to deploy IPv6 Traffic > Engineering". Some of these operators don't care about SR. Some are > actively averse to SRv6. All they want is a Routing header. > How about all of the above minus need for new routing header and zero overhead (except one IPv6 encapsulation) with far better scaling properties and no dependency on number of transit hops ? Hint: Reference based Routing RbR Do you think that if someone ships RbR there would be even single advantage to use CRH ? Thank you, R.
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Bob Hinden
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re:… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Chengli (Cheng Li)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Andrew Alston
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Andrew Alston
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Tom Herbert
- [spring] 答复: CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Aijun Wang
- Re: [spring] 答复: CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Ca… Andrew Alston
- Re: [spring] 答复: CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Ca… Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] 答复: CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Ca… Aijun Wang
- Re: [spring] 答复: CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Ca… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [spring] 答复: CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Ca… Aijun Wang
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… otroan
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ole Troan
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ron Bonica
- [spring] What's the colour of the hat (was: Re: C… otroan
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Andrew Alston
- Re: [spring] What's the colour of the hat (was: R… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] What's the colour of the hat (was: R… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] What's the colour of the hat (was: R… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] What's the colour of the hat (was: R… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Srihari Sangli
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Peter Psenak
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Peter Psenak
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… John Scudder
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Peter Psenak
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… John Scudder
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Peter Psenak
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… John Scudder
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Peter Psenak
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Tony Przygienda
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case -… Robert Raszuk