Re: [spring] [EXTERNAL] Re: A technical concern regarding draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy-00

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Thu, 15 June 2023 15:35 UTC

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From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 17:33:45 +0200
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Hi,


> I have probably did not say it explicitly, but the default topology would
> use its own resources – and experience its own problems, strictly
> orthogonal to whatever happens in the dedicated CS topology.
>
> IMHO and FWIW this could be treated as a possible approach for
> implementing the (in)famous “network slicing”.
>

Isn't the default topo an underlay for any custom topology ? You seems to
think that default topology can function "in parallel", but this is not how
I understand it.


> As for “circuit switching over connectionless paradigm” – well, TDM
> circuit emulation has been standardized by the IETF years ago, has been
> quite widely deployed, and, AFAIK, is still growing as more operators try
> to scrap their SDH networks.
>

Yeh happened to be for a number of years on a customer side using such an
"invention" and my resistance to the subject draft is coming from this
(bad) experience.

Sure it is cool for operators ... not so for customers.

I even wrote a draft one time trying to detect the hidden problems by such
innovations:

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-turaga-mpls-test-labels-01.txt

Thx,
R.

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