Re: [stir] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-stir-enhance-rfc8226-02

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Thu, 27 May 2021 18:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [stir] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-stir-enhance-rfc8226-02
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RFC 5280 docs not use quotes.  X.509 uses a different font, but that does not work here.

Russ


> On May 27, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
> Robert’s separate email points to the existing convention to quote JWT claims. Is there a convention one way or another for X.509 extensions?
> 
> Ben.
> 
>> On May 27, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com <mailto:housley@vigilsec.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ben:
>> 
>> I did try to follow the conventions in RFC 8226.  That said, I'm happy to hear what might make the sepc easier to understand.
>> 
>> Russ
>> 
>>> On May 27, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com <mailto:ben@nostrum.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> (dons shepherd hat)
>>> 
>>> The current quote usage seems to follow the convention of RFC 8226. One could argue about whether 8226 did it right, but it is what it is.
>>> 
>>> (I’d argue that “orig” refers to a human-readable-text JWT claim, thus the quotes, while mustInclude refers to an X.509 extension encoded in ASN.1. But that would be just making up stuff.)
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Ben.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 27, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com <mailto:superuser@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> A brief AD review; I'm going to Last Call this now as my feedback is minor, so please just factor this in as Last Call feedback:
>>>> 
>>>> In Section 3 (and later), stuff like mustInclude and permittedValues aren't quoted, but smaller things like "iat", "orig", and "dest" are.  More generally I found the use or non-use of quotes felt inconsistent.  I don't have a preferred solution, just something to consider.  I don't know what, if anything, the RFC Editor might do if they observe the same.
>>>> 
>>>> -MSK
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 1:10 PM Robert Sparks via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org <mailto:noreply@ietf.org>> wrote:
>>>> Robert Sparks has requested publication of draft-ietf-stir-enhance-rfc8226-02 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the STIR working group.
>>>> 
>>>> Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-enhance-rfc8226/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-enhance-rfc8226/>
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