Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 - ppt syntax
Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> Fri, 23 April 2021 16:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 - ppt syntax
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And running code... That was a genuine question -- the language we use drive the way we think. Handcoding a parser as a state machine vs using a LL(1) parser vs an LR parser introduce different difficulties when writing them, and I was wondering if your insistence was because of that. On 4/23/21 9:49 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > I didn't know the rules in IETF were "we believe in rough consensus - or in whoever has the most SIP implementations". > > (FWIW, I do have some SIP implementation experience myself.) > > However, I have not objected to your proposal. My issue is whether we really need to define a new syntax for a string value, that doesn't exist anywhere else. > > Regards, > > Christer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> > Sent: perjantai 23. huhtikuuta 2021 19.42 > To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>; Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> > Cc: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>; IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 - ppt syntax > > I have to ask: What, in your implementation of STIR, made you so confident that what you propose is better than what Roman (I assume also a SIP implementer) and I (a 5 times SIP implementer and one time STIR implementer) propose? > > On 4/23/21 9:34 AM, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: >> On 4/23/21 9:27 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> With quoted string we wouldn't need such text. >> >> You would need an even longer text that explains that a quoted-string that contains characters that are not in the definition of token -- excepted for the initial quote and the last quote -- is invalid. You would also need to explain that, contrary to the rule for a quoted-string, the string is case-insensitive. And you still have to explain that the string needs to be normalized before copy in the JSON document. >> >> So many words. >> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Christer >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> >>> Sent: torstai 22. huhtikuuta 2021 21.07 >>> To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>; Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> >>> Cc: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>; IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org> >>> Subject: Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 - ppt syntax >>> >>> On 4/22/21 11:02 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Another thing. Since we are now using DQUOTE, won't those become part of the ppt value? I guess we don't want that. >>> >>> The text I proposed is taking care of that: >>> >>> ...a quoted value whose unquoted part is equivalent to the token in the "ppt" parameter, normalized to contain only lowercase characters... >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Christer >>>> >>>> ________________________________ -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Blog: https://marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Russ Housley
- [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Russ Housley
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Russ Housley
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Peterson, Jon
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Alec Fenichel
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Peterson, Jon
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Russ Housley
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Alec Fenichel
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Alec Fenichel
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Peterson, Jon
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Alec Fenichel
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Alec Fenichel
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Peterson, Jon
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Alec Fenichel
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Gorman, Pierce
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 -… Roman Shpount
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Gorman, Pierce
- Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519 Marc Petit-Huguenin