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Re: [sunset4] Last Call: <draft-ietf-sunset4-ipv6-ietf-01.txt> (IETF: End Work on IPv4) to Proposed Standard

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Fri, 29 September 2017 15:25 UTC

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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:25:17 -0400
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Subject: Re: [sunset4] Last Call: <draft-ietf-sunset4-ipv6-ietf-01.txt> (IETF: End Work on IPv4) to Proposed Standard
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On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 29/09/2017 15:59, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org> wrote:
>>
>> Then change the name to NPv4?
>>
>> Do we care what people do on their private networks? Is it any of our
>> business?
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
> ​Since network use of IETF protocols is at least as important as Internet,
> yes it is very much IETF business if it wants to remain relevant.
>
> As for what the IPv4 consortium would do, I wrote out a draft list:
>
> * Determine IPR policy.
> * Chose venues for upcoming meetings.​
> * Form advisory committees.
> * Hold elections to advisory committees.
> * Set a schedule of membership fees.
>
> And that is just for starters.
>
>
> ... and they might perhaps figure out some technology wheeze that we did
> not notice, or which was less pure than we would accept, but none the less
> acceptable to most users, and thereby find a way to extend the service life
> of IPv4.
>
> - Stewart
>

​Like running IPv4 on the internal network and only translating to IPv6 at
the interface? That is exactly what I would expect such a body to develop.​
And the reason companies not represented in IETF would be more than happy
to pay to join such a consortium is that gifting $50K/year to develop
standards to keep their legacy systems running would be a lot cheaper than
paying network equipment vendors millions to upgrade all the gear in their
company.

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