Re: [sunset4] Last Call: <draft-ietf-sunset4-ipv6-ietf-01.txt> (IETF: End Work on IPv4) to Proposed Standard

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Fri, 29 September 2017 14:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sunset4] Last Call: <draft-ietf-sunset4-ipv6-ietf-01.txt> (IETF: End Work on IPv4) to Proposed Standard
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On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org> wrote:
>
> Then change the name to NPv4?
>
> Do we care what people do on their private networks? Is it any of our
> business?
>
> Lee
>
>
​Since network use of IETF protocols is at least as important as Internet,
yes it is very much IETF business if it wants to remain relevant.

As for what the IPv4 consortium would do, I wrote out a draft list:

* Determine IPR policy.
* Chose venues for upcoming meetings.​
* Form advisory committees.
* Hold elections to advisory committees.
* Set a schedule of membership fees.

And that is just for starters.