Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices
Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Fri, 04 March 2022 22:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices
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Hi Adrian Excellent summarization ! Kind Regards Gyan On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 4:15 PM Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I am just about to post -06 of this document. None of the changes, below > should be a surprise. 1, 3, and 4 were talked about at IETF-112. 2 is just > fine-tuning the text already in -05. > > > > 1. Deprecating NBI/SBI > > > > Per the discussion at IETF-112 and following on from Med’s comments, I am > replacing “NBI” with “IETF Network Slice Service Interface”, and “SBI” with > “Network Configuration Interface”. > > > > These are abstract terms, and the implementations might choose to use NSSM > and NSNM. They might also choose to stick with NBI, but I personally find > that term ambiguous in the greater scheme of things. > > > > 1. Clarifying the relationships between slices, connectivity > constructs, SLOs/SLEs, and network resource partitions. > > > > Recent reviews and discussions of draft-bestbar-teas-ns-packet have made > it clear that the current text is not sufficiently unambiguous. Although I > know what I meant, the text is open to interpretation and needs to be > tightened up. > > > > The relationships are easy to express: > > > > - A network slice is a service requested by / provided for the customer > - The network slice service is expressed in terms of one or more > connectivity constructs. > An implementation or operator is free to limit the number of > connectivity constructs in a slice to exactly one. > - Each connectivity construct has a set of SLOs and SLEs. > The set does not need to be the same for every connectivity construct > in the slice. > An implementation or operator is free to require that all connectivity > constructs in a slice have the same set of SLOs and SLEs. > - One or more connectivity constructs from one or more slices are > mapped to a set of network resources called a Network Resource Partition > (NRP). > One connectivity construct is only mapped to one NRP. > An NRP may be chosen because of its ability to support a specific set > of SLOs and SLEs, or its ability to support particular connectivity types. > An implementation or operator is free to map each connectivity > construct to a separate NRP, although there may be scaling implications > depending on the solution implemented. > Thus, the connectivity constructs in one slice may be mapped to one or > more NRPs. > By implication from the above, an implementation or operator is free > to map all the connectivity constructs in a slice to a single NRP and to > not share that NRP with connectivity constructs from another slice. > - An NRP is simply a collection of (reserved) resources extracted from > the underlying physical network. > The process of determining the NRP may be made easier if the physical > network topology is first filtered into a Filter Topology in order to be > aware of the subset of network resources that are suitable for specific > NRPs. > > > > 1. What to call an end point > > > > During IETF-112 we spotted several overlapping terms (CE, end-point, NSE, > maybe PE) and decided that the more generic term “Service Demarcation > Point” should be used. > > > > This will help remove the confusion about where the service begins and > ends, allowing the existing text that enumerates the options to not get > blurred by other text in the document. Of course, CEs and PEs still exist > and need to be mentioned, but the service demarcation point term allows us > to be generic without forcing any one of the four implementation options > already described in the text and Figure 1. > > > > 1. General editorial pass to clean up spelling and language use > > > > Best, > > Adrian > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > -- <http://www.verizon.com/> *Gyan Mishra* *Network Solutions A**rchitect * *Email gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com <gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com>* *M 301 502-1347*
- [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ietf-n… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Ogaki, Kenichi
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- [Teas] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Upcoming changes to dr… Ogaki, Kenichi
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Ogaki, Kenichi
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] Upcoming changes to draft-ietf-teas-ie… Gyan Mishra