[therightkey] Non-WG forming BoF

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Mon, 29 October 2012 19:02 UTC

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On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> wrote:

> I very much doubt we will manage ...

As a point of reference, the charter of this BoF is:

This non-WG forming BoF will discuss plans to specify mechanisms and
techniques that allow Internet applications to monitor and verify the
issuance of public X.509 certificates such that all issued certificates
are available to applications, and each certificate seen by an
application can be efficiently shown to be in the log of issued
certificates. Furthermore, it should be possible to cryptographically
verify the correct operation of the log.

Until that changes, there is really no "we" for doing anything: the proposal about individual submission or independent submission documents. Stephen's question about number of documents was for the current authors, not for a pre-WG (unless he has changed his mind without telling me...).

--Paul Hoffman, BoF chair for the next 8 days, and hopefully not much longer