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Re: [TLS] Requesting working group adoption of draft-stebila-tls-hybrid-design

Carrick Bartle <cbartle891@icloud.com> Fri, 21 February 2020 23:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Requesting working group adoption of draft-stebila-tls-hybrid-design
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> I agree with Watson's reasoning.

Same.


> On Feb 21, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <uri@ll.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Watson's reasoning.
> 
> We know now all we need to to start working on generic mechanisms.
> 
> Regards,
> Uri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 17:11, Watson Ladd <watson=40cloudflare.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:08 PM Stephen Farrell
>> <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 21/02/2020 22:02, Watson Ladd wrote:
>>>> We have already deployed widespread experiments that conducted the
>>>> hybridization described in this draft, already have implementations
>>>> supporting an approach similar to this draft, and that produced
>>>> valuable input to the standardization process. It really didn't matter
>>>> that it was SIKE or NewHope that was being hybridized, and they have
>>>> very different characteristics.
>>> 
>>> Documented where?
>> 
>> https://blog.cloudflare.com/towards-post-quantum-cryptography-in-tls/
>> https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-tls-post-quantum-experiment/
>> 
>> This was also presented at the NIST standardization workshop in October of 2019.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Ta,
>>> S.
>> 
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