[TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2026 18:31:07 -0400
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Subject: [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey
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> I assume that *GOOGLE* will stop using *WEB* server certificates for it's SMTP. > Or, that the GOOGLE Root program, will stop including "GTS Root R1". Yes. On Wed, Apr 1, 2026 at 6:29 PM Alan DeKok <alan.dekok@inkbridge.io> wrote: > On Apr 1, 2026, at 6:15 PM, Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov= > 40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> While this is not the WebPKI, the Internet email system is not a > private PKI. > > It is unfortunate that a change intended for the Web scenarios affects > unrelated use-cases. Perhaps this is where improvement can be made > (although this seems to be CA/B forum territory). > > Given the current (and past) history, I would suggest that any non-web > CA standards need to be kept outside of the CA/B forum. > > Alan DeKok. > >
- [TLS] TLS Client Certificates; a survey Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Tomas Gustavsson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Michael Richardson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Eliot Lear
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Tomas Gustavsson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Alan DeKok
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Jeffrey Walton
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Alan DeKok
- [TLS] [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Raghu Saxena
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Raghu Saxena
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… John Kemp
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificat… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Jeffrey Walton
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Wei Chuang
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … John Levine
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey ml+ietf-tls
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Mike Ounsworth
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Ce… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Jeffrey Walton
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Mike Ounsworth
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Michael Richardson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Alan DeKok
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: TLS Client Certificates… Alan DeKok
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Michael Richardson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Mike Shaver
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Jeffrey Walton
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Mike Shaver
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Mike Shaver
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Alan DeKok
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … 刘鹏辉
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Michael Richardson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams