[TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Thu, 26 March 2026 04:19 UTC
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Subject: [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 09:42:11PM -0500, Nico Williams wrote: > One thought that occurs is that now would be a good time to define more > EKUs. For example, I don't see one for MTA in the EKU registry: > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers/smi-numbers.xhtml#smi-numbers-1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3 > > Sadly that registry is for a specific OID arc and does not include > extended key purpose OIDs from other arcs. It might be useful to extend > these registries to allow them to include OIDs from other arcs (though > obviously IANA should only allocate from the one arc). > > Even so I can find no EKUs for SMTP, LDAP, IMAP, XMPP, etc. A bit > surprising. IMO a number of EKUs should be added. I'm not conviced that'd be useful. One would not be able to adopt these until a decade or so goes by and systems with outdated TLS stacks that support only "clientAuth" when validating TLS client certs are no longer deployed. What would actually work is support for DANE-based client auth a la DANCE. The actual client credential is then just a raw public key, with the name binding in DNS, and purpose encoded in an attrleaf label. If the client operator wants to reuse the same key for multipe purposes, that's up to them, but it is just as simple to mint separate keys for each application, to avoid big-bang multi-application key rollover hassles and cross-protocol issues. More EKUs would not at this juncture be useful. -- Viktor. 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!
- [TLS] TLS Client Certificates; a survey Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Tomas Gustavsson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Michael Richardson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Eliot Lear
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Tomas Gustavsson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Alan DeKok
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Jeffrey Walton
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Alan DeKok
- [TLS] [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Raghu Saxena
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Raghu Saxena
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… John Kemp
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] TLS Client Certificates; a surv… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificat… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Jeffrey Walton
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Wei Chuang
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … John Levine
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey ml+ietf-tls
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Mike Ounsworth
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Ce… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Jeffrey Walton
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Mike Ounsworth
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certific… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Michael Richardson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Alan DeKok
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: Re: TLS Client Certificates… Alan DeKok
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Michael Richardson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Mike Shaver
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Jeffrey Walton
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Mike Shaver
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Mike Shaver
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Alan DeKok
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … 刘鹏辉
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: … Michael Richardson
- [TLS] Re: [lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a … Nico Williams