Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI
Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net> Fri, 26 June 2020 06:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI
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On 6/25/20 3:29 PM, Erik Nygren wrote:
> One quick comment is that binding tokens to IP addresses is strongly
> counter-recommended.
> It doesn't survive NATs or proxies, mobility, and it is especially
> problematic in IPv6+IPv4 dual-stack environments.
There's been a bunch of past work done developing similar sorts of
protocols, and for what it's worth I wrote up a mechanism for
using address tags and address rewrites, but unfortunately Cisco
decided to patent it. Anyway, there are ways of dealing with this
problem that don't require binding the address to the token ("all
technical problems can be solved by introducing a layer of
indirection").
Melinda
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Melinda Shore
melinda.shore@nomountain.net
Software longa, hardware brevis
- [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Yiannis Yiakoumis
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Erik Nygren
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Yiannis Yiakoumis
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Melinda Shore
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Christian Huitema
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Yiannis Yiakoumis
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Christian Huitema
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Yiannis Yiakoumis
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Ben Schwartz
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Yiannis Yiakoumis
- Re: [TLS] [Network-tokens] Network Tokens I-D and… Tom Herbert
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Ben Schwartz
- Re: [TLS] Network Tokens I-D and TLS / ESNI Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] [Network-tokens] Network Tokens I-D and… Tom Herbert
- Re: [TLS] [Network-tokens] Network Tokens I-D and… Michael Richardson