Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-drip-rid
"Card, Stu" <stu.card@axenterprize.com> Sat, 07 August 2021 02:49 UTC
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From: "Card, Stu" <stu.card@axenterprize.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2021 22:48:58 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-drip-rid
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I concur. Thanks Bob! On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, 14:23 Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote: > Thus look for the new draft title as: > > DRIP Entity Tag (DET) for Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification > (UAS RID) > > with the title abbreviation of: > > DRIP Entity Tag (DET) > > But at this point I am not changing the draft name. > > On 8/3/21 5:10 PM, Card, Stu wrote: > > Correction: > DRIP Identity Tag (DIT) > or > DRIP Entity Tag (DET) > > Intriguing that "entity" is embedded in "identity"... checking etymology > now... > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 17:05 Card, Stu <stu.card@axenterprize.com> wrote: > >> DRIP Entity Tag (DIT)? >> >> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 4:57 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Other than I don't think I was the one that came up with "RID".... >>> >>> an acronym is valuable. It does not need to be a TLA, an FLA will >>> work. ;) >>> >>> Also important to be pronounceable. I really struggled with some IBM >>> used back in the big iron days! >>> >>> Also we are proposing the DRIP Entity ID to be used in many places in >>> the UAS/USS architecture. One name to bind them all? >>> >>> Unmanned Aviation Entity ID UAEID Too many vowels. Plus "UAE" is a >>> nation. hmm more daydreaming needed. >>> >>> Also "Aviation" for inclusiveness and "Aircraft" provide the same first >>> letter to the acronym with potential acronym expansion errors. >>> >>> I have not looked at all uses of "RID" in drip-req, but at least the >>> first few follow your point. drip-arch will have to be checked as well. >>> >>> But your point is a good one and I will see what I can come up with. >>> >>> On 8/3/21 4:21 PM, Card, Stu wrote: >>> >>> Please don't use the acronym "RID" to refer to the identity or the >>> identifier. The regulators & other SDOs use it to refer to "remote >>> identification" [and tracking] as a _process_. ASTM F3411 refers to the >>> identifier of interest as the "UAS ID" although that is also a misnomer as >>> it uniquely identifies not the whole UAS but only the UA itself. Can't we >>> just call our specific subtype the "DRIP Entity ID" as in the F3411 >>> revision, or "DRIP [entity] identifier" as in our own IETF DRIP >>> requirements draft? >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 3:30 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> During our IETF111 session we covered changing what is in >>>> draft-ietf-drip-rid. >>>> >>>> Over the past few versions, drip-rid absorbed other drafts and perhaps >>>> it is time to shed a few things. >>>> >>>> Sec 6 on DRIP Proofs is really for draft-ietf-drip-auth and will be >>>> replaced with pointers to that draft. >>>> >>>> In a couple places there is the HHIT registry discuss. Noteably sec >>>> 4.5. this should point to draft-wiethuechter-drip-registries, which >>>> should be adopted by the wg. >>>> >>>> drip-rid should be focused on the Remote ID itself. In fact in the >>>> revision to ASTM F3411, we got in that Session ID type 1 is: >>>> >>>> Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) Drone Remote Identification >>>> Protocol (DRIP) entity ID. >>>> >>>> So I propose to change the title in the draft to: >>>> >>>> Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Entity ID (UAS RID) >>>> >>>> And not change the draft name. >>>> >>>> Comments? I don't see any changes need in the Abstract for this. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tm-rid mailing list >>>> Tm-rid@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Robert Moskowitz >>> Owner >>> HTT Consulting >>> C: 248-219-2059 >>> F: 248-968-2824 >>> E: rgm@labs.htt-consult.com >>> >>> There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who >>> gets the credit >>> >> > > -- > Robert Moskowitz > Owner > HTT Consulting > C: 248-219-2059 > F: 248-968-2824 > E: rgm@labs.htt-consult.com > > There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets > the credit >
- [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-drip-… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Card, Stu
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Card, Stu
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Card, Stu
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] [Internet]Re: Potential name change fo… shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao)
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Adam Wiethuechter
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Adam Wiethuechter
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-d… Card, Stu