Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-drip-rid

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Fri, 06 August 2021 18:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-drip-rid
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Thus look for the new draft title as:

DRIP Entity Tag (DET) for Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification 
(UAS RID)

with the title abbreviation of:

DRIP Entity Tag (DET)

But at this point I am not changing the draft name.

On 8/3/21 5:10 PM, Card, Stu wrote:
> Correction:
> DRIP Identity Tag (DIT)
> or
> DRIP Entity Tag (DET)
>
> Intriguing that "entity" is embedded in "identity"... checking 
> etymology now...
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 17:05 Card, Stu <stu.card@axenterprize.com 
> <mailto:stu.card@axenterprize.com>> wrote:
>
>     DRIP Entity Tag (DIT)?
>
>     On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 4:57 PM Robert Moskowitz
>     <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com <mailto:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>> wrote:
>
>         Other than I don't think I was the one that came up with "RID"....
>
>         an acronym is valuable.  It does not need to be a TLA, an FLA
>         will work.  ;)
>
>         Also important to be pronounceable.  I really struggled with
>         some IBM used back in the big iron days!
>
>         Also we are proposing the DRIP Entity ID to be used in many
>         places in the UAS/USS architecture.  One name to bind them all?
>
>         Unmanned Aviation Entity ID  UAEID   Too many vowels. Plus
>         "UAE" is a nation.  hmm more daydreaming needed.
>
>         Also "Aviation" for inclusiveness and "Aircraft" provide the
>         same first letter to the acronym with potential acronym
>         expansion errors.
>
>         I have not looked at all uses of "RID" in drip-req, but at
>         least the first few follow your point.  drip-arch will have to
>         be checked as well.
>
>         But your point is a good one and I will see what I can come up
>         with.
>
>         On 8/3/21 4:21 PM, Card, Stu wrote:
>>         Please don't use the acronym "RID" to refer to the identity
>>         or the identifier. The regulators & other SDOs use it to
>>         refer to "remote identification" [and tracking] as a
>>         _process_. ASTM F3411 refers to the identifier of interest as
>>         the "UAS ID" although that is also a misnomer as it uniquely
>>         identifies not the whole UAS but only the UA itself. Can't we
>>         just call our specific subtype the "DRIP Entity ID" as in the
>>         F3411 revision, or "DRIP [entity] identifier" as in our own
>>         IETF DRIP requirements draft?
>>
>>         On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 3:30 PM Robert Moskowitz
>>         <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com <mailto:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>             During our IETF111 session we covered changing what is in
>>             draft-ietf-drip-rid.
>>
>>             Over the past few versions, drip-rid absorbed other
>>             drafts and perhaps
>>             it is time to shed a few things.
>>
>>             Sec 6 on DRIP Proofs is really for draft-ietf-drip-auth
>>             and will be
>>             replaced with pointers to that draft.
>>
>>             In a couple places there is the HHIT registry discuss. 
>>             Noteably sec
>>             4.5.  this should point to
>>             draft-wiethuechter-drip-registries, which
>>             should be adopted by the wg.
>>
>>             drip-rid should be focused on the Remote ID itself.  In
>>             fact in the
>>             revision to ASTM F3411, we got in that Session ID type 1 is:
>>
>>             Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) Drone Remote
>>             Identification
>>             Protocol (DRIP) entity ID.
>>
>>             So I propose to change the title in the draft to:
>>
>>             Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Entity ID (UAS RID)
>>
>>             And not change the draft name.
>>
>>             Comments?  I don't see any changes need in the Abstract
>>             for this.
>>
>>             Thanks
>>
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