Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-drip-rid

"Card, Stu" <stu.card@axenterprize.com> Tue, 03 August 2021 21:11 UTC

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From: "Card, Stu" <stu.card@axenterprize.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2021 17:10:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Drip] Potential name change for draft-ietf-drip-rid
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Correction:
DRIP Identity Tag (DIT)
or
DRIP Entity Tag (DET)

Intriguing that "entity" is embedded in "identity"... checking etymology
now...

On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 17:05 Card, Stu <stu.card@axenterprize.com> wrote:

> DRIP Entity Tag (DIT)?
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 4:57 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Other than I don't think I was the one that came up with "RID"....
>>
>> an acronym is valuable.  It does not need to be a TLA, an FLA will work.
>> ;)
>>
>> Also important to be pronounceable.  I really struggled with some IBM
>> used back in the big iron days!
>>
>> Also we are proposing the DRIP Entity ID to be used in many places in the
>> UAS/USS architecture.  One name to bind them all?
>>
>> Unmanned Aviation Entity ID  UAEID   Too many vowels.  Plus "UAE" is a
>> nation.  hmm more daydreaming needed.
>>
>> Also "Aviation" for inclusiveness and "Aircraft" provide the same first
>> letter to the acronym with potential acronym expansion errors.
>>
>> I have not looked at all uses of "RID" in drip-req, but at least the
>> first few follow your point.  drip-arch will have to be checked as well.
>>
>> But your point is a good one and I will see what I can come up with.
>>
>> On 8/3/21 4:21 PM, Card, Stu wrote:
>>
>> Please don't use the acronym "RID" to refer to the identity or the
>> identifier. The regulators & other SDOs use it to refer to "remote
>> identification" [and tracking] as a _process_. ASTM F3411 refers to the
>> identifier of interest as the "UAS ID" although that is also a misnomer as
>> it uniquely identifies not the whole UAS but only the UA itself. Can't we
>> just call our specific subtype the "DRIP Entity ID" as in the F3411
>> revision, or "DRIP [entity] identifier" as in our own IETF DRIP
>> requirements draft?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 3:30 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> During our IETF111 session we covered changing what is in
>>> draft-ietf-drip-rid.
>>>
>>> Over the past few versions, drip-rid absorbed other drafts and perhaps
>>> it is time to shed a few things.
>>>
>>> Sec 6 on DRIP Proofs is really for draft-ietf-drip-auth and will be
>>> replaced with pointers to that draft.
>>>
>>> In a couple places there is the HHIT registry discuss.  Noteably sec
>>> 4.5.  this should point to draft-wiethuechter-drip-registries, which
>>> should be adopted by the wg.
>>>
>>> drip-rid should be focused on the Remote ID itself.  In fact in the
>>> revision to ASTM F3411, we got in that Session ID type 1 is:
>>>
>>> Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) Drone Remote Identification
>>> Protocol (DRIP) entity ID.
>>>
>>> So I propose to change the title in the draft to:
>>>
>>> Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Entity ID (UAS RID)
>>>
>>> And not change the draft name.
>>>
>>> Comments?  I don't see any changes need in the Abstract for this.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who
>> gets the credit
>>
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