Re: [Tools-discuss] Important dates in upcoming.ics

[Robert Sparks <[e-mail]>]

On 2/3/21 11:07 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Robert Sparks <[e-mail]> wrote:
>      > All, and particularly Michael, who IIRC made the original request:
>
>      > The upcoming meetings ics calendar currently includes meeting important
>      > dates (but the page does not show them). Lars points out that this is
>      > both inconsistent, and redundant with the separate important dates ics
>      > calendar we have.
>
> I'm okay with important dates being elsewhere.
> What feed is that page?  https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/ does not mention
> it.  I get to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/important-dates/
> only by going into a specific meeting.

You found where the link is homed: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/important-dates/

https://datatracker/meeting will always have a link to that page.

Greg - consider adding a link to 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/important-dates/ at 
https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/


>
> I think that ultimately my original complaint was that the upcoming included
> the *meeting* things, which was redundant with having the meeting calendar loaded.
> I think that this has been fixed now.
Yes
>
> The primary utility I have with upcoming.ics is that it tells me (in various
> roles), when there are other (virtual) interim meetings.
>
> I would like it if the upcoming.ics included the IESG Telechats and other
> related things (LLC board, RTG area meetings, etc.).

We could add these other things, but I think we would then need to add 
filters so people could select the information that they really want.

I understand the general deconflicting use case.

It will likely be a stretch to get LLC board meetings and the like into 
the datatracker - those are maintained in other systems.

Area meetings on the other hand should just be interims - are they not 
being organized that way?

>   Again, the goal is
> either de-conflicting, or at least, consciously knowing about double bookings.
>
>      > Would it be reasonable to remove the important dates from the
>      > upcoming.ics calendar?
>
> YES.
>
>      > (Also note that the way these important dates are currently being
>      > represented in both of the above .ics files is not right - it fails to
>      > display in calendar.app, and causes other calendaring systems to assert
>      > that the whole day is "Busy" - see
>      > https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/3161).
>
> Oh.  That's really bad.
> I guess that's because they are not associated with a specific time.
> Maybe for some things, like Draft Deadline, a 5 minute event at 23:55:00
> would work.  That would also establish the deadline into the right time zone.
>
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