[Tools-discuss] Show the queue and active speakers always

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Thu, 19 November 2020 03:12 UTC

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 14:12:23 +1100
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: [Tools-discuss] Show the queue and active speakers always
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As a chair, monitoring the queue and the chat is basically impossible.  I've found that a great deal of relevant discussion occurs in chat, but constant switching is difficult to manage.

Rather than layer these in a tabbed view, I would greatly prefer if the queue (and active speakers) were shown in a distinct area of the screen.  In the presentation view, that could be below the active video.  In the gallery view, that could be at the bottom.