Re: [Tools-discuss] [rt5.ietf.org #6435] Unable to get mail back from alias expansion - expand-mediaman-chairs

[Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>]

Carsten Bormann <[e-mail]> wrote:
    >> Who's in charge of the interaction between mailer and -chairs aliases?

    > Well, this is a longstanding issue with the alias processor; this is
    > based on a model that used to work when mail could simply be forwarded
    > without extensive changes to the headers in the forwarder, which is no
    > longer the case.

Unfortunately,  I think that the IETF will have to go into operating an IMAP
server for participants to be able to interact with each other.  I can
already regularly not unicast email directly to many other sites, and the
situation is getting worse due to lack of human supervision at those sites.

    > Yes, we are talking about a problem actively preventing work (*) and
    > not receiving any progress for a couple of years now.  I’m not
    > complaining, as there indeed were more severe problems to be solved
    > than mail arriving, but I will continue to try to push this up on the
    > priority list.

...

    > (*) Got another mail from a draft author that didn’t find out I was
    > talking to them until another draft author did a wide reply.  Today.

Daily occurance for me.

I think that the IETF should have rejected all email from sites with a p=reject
policy.  That would have made many of the problems apparent to the senders.
I'm still waiting for ARC to solve the problems, but I don't think it will
help.