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Re: [tram] Milestone 3: TURN server auto-discovery mechanism for enterprise and ISPs

"Pal Martinsen (palmarti)" <palmarti@cisco.com> Wed, 12 February 2014 09:13 UTC

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From: "Pal Martinsen (palmarti)" <palmarti@cisco.com>
To: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Thread-Topic: [tram] Milestone 3: TURN server auto-discovery mechanism for enterprise and ISPs
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 09:13:36 +0000
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Subject: Re: [tram] Milestone 3: TURN server auto-discovery mechanism for enterprise and ISPs
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Inline and a lot of context clipped away.
On 12 Feb 2014, at 07:13 am, Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> wrote:

> Inline.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Karl Stahl <karl.stahl@intertex.se> wrote:
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> This leads us into  “TURN…to identify WebRTC flows” etc! It is not a mistake, but the very need for this milestone!
> 
> 
> Again, it has not been demonstrated why TURN is the right technology here, compared to a more transparent flow identification tool like MALICE. We don't force all HTTP requests to locate a HTTP proxy via anycast, I don't see why we need to do the same for WebRTC. 
> 
We renamed MALICE to DISCUSS.  To get rid of Meta-data associations and ICE from the name, and to indicate that this is a much simplified version.

DISCUSS is posted here: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-martinsen-tram-discuss-00

Started a separate thread on the topic. Just wanted to make explain the MALICE -> DISCUSS correlation.
Is it possible to get a link from the expired MALICE draft to the new DISCUSS draft? How? 

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Pål-Erik

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