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Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-morton-taht-tsvwg-sce-00.txt

Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com> Mon, 11 March 2019 23:50 UTC

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From: Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>
CC: Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
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I'm not sure how you misinterpreted L4S as being "for the sole benefit of the cable industry".  It is a standards-track draft here at IETF.  From what I understand, multiple network technologies are in the process of implementing it.  None have been public about it until now.

-Greg


On 3/11/19, 5:33 PM, "Dave Taht" <dave@taht.net> wrote:

    
    
    Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com> writes:
    
    > On the item below, I am intending to finish up and submit a TSVWG
    > informational draft today that describes the (new) mandatory support
    > for L4S AQM and dual-queue requirement in DOCSIS 3.1 (CM & CMTS)
    > equipment. The draft will essentially be a reformat of this document:
    >
    > https://cablela.bs/low-latency-docsis-technology-overview-february-2019
    >
    > These requirements were added in December, and will roll out as
    > firmware updates to existing DOCSIS 3.1 equipment (nearly 100% of
    > CMTSs, and a growing fraction of CMs) over time.
    
    I was unaware of this notice, and as I note, it's only march...
    
    Using up the last ECN bit in this way, for the sole benefit of the cable
    industry, strikes me as a poor standard for the internet.
    
    >
    > -Greg
    >
    > From: tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Bob Briscoe
    > <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>
    > Date: Monday, March 11, 2019 at 10:29 AM
    > To: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
    > Cc: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for
    > draft-morton-taht-tsvwg-sce-00.txt
    >
    > L4S is far from dead. It's merely been working differently from how
    > you're used to. Those working on an L4S AQM (at least those in the
    > cable industry) had to have a private WG for the last ~18 months, but
    > now we're allowed to publish and talk openly again.

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