Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-morton-taht-tsvwg-sce-00.txt

Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com> Mon, 11 March 2019 19:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-morton-taht-tsvwg-sce-00.txt
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:29 PM Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> wrote:
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> Dave,
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> I'm pasting my comments on this from the bufferbloat list here. I guess discussion on assignment of an IETF codepoint ought to continue here.
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> L4S is far from dead. It's merely been working differently from how you're used to. Those working on an L4S AQM (at least those in the cable industry) had to have a private WG for the last ~18 months, but now we're allowed to publish and talk openly again. Similarly, there's work under the covers on an L4S AQM in switch hardware. And I see external signs of work under covers on DSL access equipment (covers that I am not under any longer).
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> Nonetheless, I think you will see updated Linux code for an L4S DualQ Coupled AQM built against the mainline tree appear on netdev list today.
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> ==In summary==
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> The problem that the SCE draft identifies with TCP's sharp multiplicative decrease is also the primary problem that L4S identified.
>

Hence why I think it's important to do research on both and see how
they fare when used by early adopters on routers at home :-)