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"Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com> Tue, 12 March 2019 00:08 UTC

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From: "Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>
To: Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com>, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>
CC: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
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On 2019-03-11, 16:50, "Greg White" <g.white@CableLabs.com> wrote:
> It is a standards-track draft here at IETF

I thought the L4S drafts were experimental, not standards-track:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-aqm-dualq-coupled-08
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id-04

Was there one that's standards track?

Thanks and regards,
Jake

    
    -Greg
    
    
    On 3/11/19, 5:33 PM, "Dave Taht" <dave@taht.net> wrote:
    
        
        
        Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com> writes:
        
        > On the item below, I am intending to finish up and submit a TSVWG
        > informational draft today that describes the (new) mandatory support
        > for L4S AQM and dual-queue requirement in DOCSIS 3.1 (CM & CMTS)
        > equipment. The draft will essentially be a reformat of this document:
        >
        > https://cablela.bs/low-latency-docsis-technology-overview-february-2019
        >
        > These requirements were added in December, and will roll out as
        > firmware updates to existing DOCSIS 3.1 equipment (nearly 100% of
        > CMTSs, and a growing fraction of CMs) over time.
        
        I was unaware of this notice, and as I note, it's only march...
        
        Using up the last ECN bit in this way, for the sole benefit of the cable
        industry, strikes me as a poor standard for the internet.
        
        >
        > -Greg
        >
        > From: tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Bob Briscoe
        > <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>
        > Date: Monday, March 11, 2019 at 10:29 AM
        > To: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
        > Cc: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
        > Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for
        > draft-morton-taht-tsvwg-sce-00.txt
        >
        > L4S is far from dead. It's merely been working differently from how
        > you're used to. Those working on an L4S AQM (at least those in the
        > cable industry) had to have a private WG for the last ~18 months, but
        > now we're allowed to publish and talk openly again.

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