Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-morton-taht-tsvwg-sce-00.txt
Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com> Tue, 12 March 2019 00:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-morton-taht-tsvwg-sce-00.txt
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Hi Greg, I'm curious about the queue protection function in the LLD document. It seems to assume that a flow table is maintained to determine if a flow has the right to enter the low latency queue. Can you give more details about that component? Or point me to a reference? Thanks Luca On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 4:50 PM Greg White <g.white@cablelabs.com> wrote: > I'm not sure how you misinterpreted L4S as being "for the sole benefit of > the cable industry". It is a standards-track draft here at IETF. From > what I understand, multiple network technologies are in the process of > implementing it. None have been public about it until now. > > -Greg > > > On 3/11/19, 5:33 PM, "Dave Taht" <dave@taht.net> wrote: > > > > Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com> writes: > > > On the item below, I am intending to finish up and submit a TSVWG > > informational draft today that describes the (new) mandatory support > > for L4S AQM and dual-queue requirement in DOCSIS 3.1 (CM & CMTS) > > equipment. The draft will essentially be a reformat of this document: > > > > > https://cablela.bs/low-latency-docsis-technology-overview-february-2019 > > > > These requirements were added in December, and will roll out as > > firmware updates to existing DOCSIS 3.1 equipment (nearly 100% of > > CMTSs, and a growing fraction of CMs) over time. > > I was unaware of this notice, and as I note, it's only march... > > Using up the last ECN bit in this way, for the sole benefit of the > cable > industry, strikes me as a poor standard for the internet. > > > > > -Greg > > > > From: tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Bob Briscoe > > <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> > > Date: Monday, March 11, 2019 at 10:29 AM > > To: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org> > > Cc: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for > > draft-morton-taht-tsvwg-sce-00.txt > > > > L4S is far from dead. It's merely been working differently from how > > you're used to. Those working on an L4S AQM (at least those in the > > cable industry) had to have a private WG for the last ~18 months, but > > now we're allowed to publish and talk openly again. > > >
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Dave Taht
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Greg White
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Loganaden Velvindron
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Dave Taht
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Greg White
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Dave Taht
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Holland, Jake
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Luca Muscariello
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Greg White
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-mo… Holland, Jake