RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG
Scott Bradner <sob@harvard.edu> Thu, 02 May 2002 01:56 UTC
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From: Scott Bradner <sob@harvard.edu>
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Subject: RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG
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the twiddeling with this document has gone on far far too long at this point I do not see a reason to not have the IESG review this version unless someone can show that it will not work someday we have to say that its good enough - and that day is now to me Scott --- From tsvwg-admin@ietf.org Wed May 1 21:39:07 2002 X-Sent: 2 May 2002 01:34:50 GMT From: "Douglas Otis" <dotis@sanlight.net> To: <tsvwg@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:34:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200205011251.g41CpCX18433@newdev.harvard.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tsvwg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: tsvwg-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Transport Area Working Group <tsvwg.ietf.org> X-BeenThere: tsvwg@ietf.org Scott, I see the hardware implementation notes added in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpcsum-06.txt A check that 'logically' zeros content of the checksum field during a checksum calculation and then compares the result to an unaltered field is robust. Passing an unaltered packet to a software stack provides a complete diagnostic should there be a suspected problem with checksum hardware and allows an unmodified software implementation to take over. It is clumsy to alter the packet and then require a means to expose this prior value. Would it be possible to suggest presenting an unaltered packet in the event of an error as an alternative? Exposing the unaltered CRC is common practice as a diagnostic. The CRC field in the header over a hidden zero value is an unusual case with respect to CRC. Imposing a read/write/read operation on this field as opposed to just a read is more prone to error and adds complexity within the circuit and interface. -Doug On May 1, 2002 5:51 AM Scott Bradner (sob@harvard.edu) wrote: > > > fyi - the revised version of the SCTP checksum chnage will be > posted today as draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpcsum-06.txt - this is the > version that the IESG will consider for publication as a Proposed > Standard RFC updating RFC 2960. > > Scott _______________________________________________ tsvwg mailing list tsvwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg _______________________________________________ tsvwg mailing list tsvwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Douglas Otis
- [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Scott Bradner
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Scott Bradner
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Douglas Otis
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Douglas Otis
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG john.loughney
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Brian F. G. Bidulock
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Scott Bradner
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG john.loughney
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Tuexen Michael
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Brian F. G. Bidulock
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Michael A. Ramalho
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Brian F. G. Bidulock
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Tuexen Michael
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Douglas Otis
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Douglas Otis
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1)
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Scott Bradner
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Michael A. Ramalho
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Scott Bradner
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Lloyd Wood
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG pat_thaler
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Qiaobing Xie
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1)
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG pat_thaler
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Douglas Otis
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Qiaobing Xie
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Douglas Otis
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Jonathan Stone
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Michael Tuexen
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Douglas Otis
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Brian F. G. Bidulock
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Randall Stewart
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Brian F. G. Bidulock
- Re: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Brian F. G. Bidulock
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG Douglas Otis
- RE: [Tsvwg] SCTP Checksum Change to the IESG THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1)