Re: [tsvwg] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-dscp-registry-04
Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 09 May 2018 19:04 UTC
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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 14:04:51 -0500
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-dscp-registry-04
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Hi, Gorry, On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 3:13 AM, Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote: > These request are all OK with me, and I have made the changes. > > The recent thread on the TSVWG list has made me wonder again whether it is > possible for me to be slightly clearer about explaining the TOS precedence > bleaching - without drilling into all the detail. This has always a > nightmare to write concisely, but I think I may be able to do better, and > if you agree, I would also incorporate the slightly longer replacement text > below: > > OLD: > An example is the need to assign a suitable recommended default codepoint > for the Lower Effort (LE) per-hop behavior (PHB) [I-D.ietf-tsvwg-le-phb]. > The LE PHB is designed to protect best-effort (BE) traffic (packets > forwarded with the default PHB) from LE traffic in congestion situations, > i.e., when resources become scarce, best-effort traffic has precedence over > LE traffic and may preempt it. The continued presence of bleaching of the > IP precedence field, setting the first three bits of the former TOS byte to > zero (i.e., zeroing the top three bits of the DSCP) in deployed networks > motivates the desire for the LE PHB to use a DSCP with a zero value for the > first three bits [I-D.ietf-tsvwg-le-phb]. > > NEW: > An example is the need to assign a suitable recommended default codepoint > for the Lower Effort (LE) per-hop behavior (PHB) [I-D.ietf-tsvwg-le-phb]. > The LE PHB is designed to protect best-effort (BE) traffic (packets > forwarded with the default PHB) from LE traffic in congestion situations, > i.e., when resources become scarce, best-effort traffic has precedence over > LE traffic and is allowed to preempt it. The continued presence of > bleaching of the IP precedence field in deployed networks can result in > setting the first three bits of the former TOS byte to zero (disabling any > class-based flow management by routers configured with TOS-based packet > processing). There is a need to avoid this remapping of the DSCP for the LE > PHB by assiging a codepoint that has a zero value in the first three bits > [I-D.ietf-tsvwg-le-phb]. Furthermore, if the LE PHB were to have been > assigned one of the currently unused Pool 1 codepoints with a zero value in > the first three bits, any bleaching of the IP precedence field would result > in other (higher assurance) traffic being remapped to the assigned DSCP. > This remapping could then cause diffserv-marked traffic to receive an > unintentional LE treatment for the remainder of the Internet path. It is > therefore important to avoid the resulting priority inversion. The absence > of unassigned codepoints in Pool 1 that exhibit these important properties > motivates assigning a Pool 3 codepoint as the default that is recommended > for use with this PHB. > --- > > - Your thoughts please, I'll hold publishing the new revision until I hear > from you, > I don't object to the new text, but it looks like there's still some mailing list traffic on this draft - I'll go read that next. If you do the right thing, that will be fine with me, of course ... Spencer > Gorry > > On 09/05/2018, 06:18, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: > > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 9:00 AM, David Black <david.black@dell.com <mailto: >> david.black@dell.com>> wrote: >> >> David Black has requested publication of >> draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-dscp-registry-04 as Proposed Standard on >> behalf of the TSVWG working group. >> >> Please verify the document's state at >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-dscp-registry/ >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-dscp >> -registry/> >> >> >> I have a couple of comments, but this draft is ready for Last Call. Could >> you take a look at my comments, and let me know what the right thing to do >> is? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Spencer >> >> There's a reference to https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8126#section-4.9 >> in the Introduction, but that text uses "Standards Action" with the >> reference but without any expansion, while further down, the next >> occurrence of "Standards Action" explains that this means "values are >> assigned by Standards Track or Best Current Practice RFCs", without >> providing a reference. Perhaps expanding >> These are assigned by >> Standards Action, as defined in [RFC8126]. >> >> to read >> >> These are assigned by >> Standards Action, as defined in [RFC8126], i.e., values are assigned >> by Standards Track or Best Current Practice RFCs >> >> and dropping the expansion from the second mention would be clearer? >> >> Independent of that question, I had to read through the text containing >> the second mention a couple of times. >> >> Although Pool 1 has not yet been completely exhausted, this document >> changes the IANA registration policy of Pool 3 to assignment by >> Standards Action, i.e., values are assigned by Standards Track or >> Best Current Practice RFCs. The rationale for this update is a need >> to assign codepoints for particular PHBs that are unable to use any >> of the unassigned values in Pool 1. >> >> Would it be correct to say >> >> Although Pool 1 has not yet been completely exhausted, there is a need >> to assign codepoints for particular PHBs that are unable to use any >> of the unassigned values in Pool 1. This document >> changes the IANA registration policy of Pool 3 to assignment by >> Standards Action, i.e., values are assigned by Standards Track or >> Best Current Practice RFCs, allowing these codepoints to be assigned. >> >> ? >> > >
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