Re: [Txauth] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: (with COMMENT)

Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> Wed, 24 June 2020 15:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Txauth] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: (with COMMENT)
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Good clarifications, thank you for the feedback! 

One nit, for Roman: that should probably be “the OpenID Foundation”. I would personally also add “the Kantara Initiative” to the list, as that is the home of the User Managed Access (UMA) work that is also directly influencing this. So a proposed rewording:

"The working group will cooperate and coordinate with other IETF WGs such as
   OAUTH, and work with organizations in the community, such as the OpenID
   Foundation and the Kantara Initiative, as appropriate."

There are of course others, like W3C and DIF who are doing identity and authenticator work that would plug into GNAP, but it is probably overkill to list everyone, right? 

All that said, this is a minor note. Even listing just “the OpenID Foundation” without Kantara would be fine with me.

 — Justin

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Roman
> 
> Thank you for replying to my questions: everything is clear now for me.
> 
> -éric
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
> Date: Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 16:26
> To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc: "gnap-chairs@ietf.org" <gnap-chairs@ietf.org>, "txauth@ietf.org" <txauth@ietf.org>
> Subject: RE: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: (with COMMENT)
> 
>    Hi Eric!
> 
>    Thanks for the review.  More inline ...
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: iesg <iesg-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:15 AM
>> To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
>> Cc: gnap-chairs@ietf.org; txauth@ietf.org
>> Subject: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: (with
>> COMMENT)
>> 
>> Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
>> charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: No Objection
>> 
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>> 
>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-gnap/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> COMMENT:
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>> 
>> Some quick comments:
>> - the charter itself is rather verbose, sometimes convoluted, and often directive
>> (looking like the charter is about rubber stamping existing work) 
> 
>    Yes, it is long.  These words were carefully chosen after a deliberate, iterative process to gain consensus.  No existing work is getting rubber stamped -- quite the contrary, there are at least two competing proposals to form the basis of the starting point. 
> 
>> - nits please
>> expand "AS" before first use 
> 
>    Fixed in version 00-01.
> 
>> - missing milestones dates ? 
> 
>    Good point.  I'm working on getting these documented.
> 
>> - should this new WG
>> work with others?
> 
>    Yes.  The 00-01 version now contains:
> 
>    "The working group will cooperate and coordinate with other IETF WGs such as
>    OAUTH, and work with organizations in the community, such as the OpenID, 
>    as appropriate."
> 
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