Re: [Txauth] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: (with COMMENT)

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Wed, 24 June 2020 14:26 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: Éric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [Txauth] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Eric!

Thanks for the review.  More inline ...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: iesg <iesg-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:15 AM
> To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc: gnap-chairs@ietf.org; txauth@ietf.org
> Subject: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: (with
> COMMENT)
> 
> Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
> charter-ietf-gnap-00-00: No Objection
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> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
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> Some quick comments:
> - the charter itself is rather verbose, sometimes convoluted, and often directive
> (looking like the charter is about rubber stamping existing work) 

Yes, it is long.  These words were carefully chosen after a deliberate, iterative process to gain consensus.  No existing work is getting rubber stamped -- quite the contrary, there are at least two competing proposals to form the basis of the starting point. 

>- nits please
> expand "AS" before first use 

Fixed in version 00-01.

> - missing milestones dates ? 

Good point.  I'm working on getting these documented.

> - should this new WG
> work with others?

Yes.  The 00-01 version now contains:

"The working group will cooperate and coordinate with other IETF WGs such as
OAUTH, and work with organizations in the community, such as the OpenID, 
as appropriate."